IK Mulitmedia T-RackS TASCAM Tape Collection available now

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Krakatau
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 am

I demoed it today, this seems IMO a very attractive bundle and likely very accurate modelings of these peculiar tape machine as far as i could judge, but i have to deplore the heavy CPU weight ...even on my M1/Big sur Macmini !!!

:dog:

...too bad because it could quickly turn unusuable if you intend to place them in numerous track insert in a project (like the tascam388 and its semi-parametric equalizer as a owned one by the past), and i sincerely hope the next apple silicon native support might light the problem a bit

:(

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plexuss
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:01 pm

Krakatau wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 am
I demoed it today, this seems IMO a very attractive bundle and likely very accurate modelings of these peculiar tape machine as far as i could judge, but i have to deplore the heavy CPU weight ...even on my M1/Big sur Macmini !!!

:dog:

...too bad because it could quickly turn unusuable if you intend to place them in numerous track insert in a project (like the tascam388 and its semi-parametric equalizer as a owned one by the past), and i sincerely hope the next apple silicon native support might light the problem a bit

:(
It's the same with the other IK Tape products and IK doesn't seem to want to give us an option to reduce quality to get CPU back. I love plugins that give me a lower quality for mixing and a higher quality for rendering. With IK I sometimes end up having to repalce them with other tape emus because I need to keep working and their unadjustable high CPU usage makes them unusable.

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Krakatau
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:08 pm

pity...

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jamcat
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1233 posts since 2 Sep, 2019

Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:12 pm

Krakatau wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 am
I demoed it today, this seems IMO a very attractive bundle and likely very accurate modelings of these peculiar tape machine as far as i could judge, but i have to deplore the heavy CPU weight ...even on my M1/Big sur Macmini !!!
How much CPU is one instance taking on the M1? (Your DAW should be able to show you a percentage in its performance meter.)
Krakatau wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:27 am
...too bad because it could quickly turn unusuable if you intend to place them in numerous track insert in a project (like the tascam388 and its semi-parametric equalizer as a owned one by the past), and i sincerely hope the next apple silicon native support might light the problem a bit

:(
Additional instances shouldn’t really impact your CPU performance too much until you max out your cores, which on the M1 is 4 high performance cores. So you should be able to do 4 tracks with tape on each.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Krakatau
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:20 pm

to be fair it's likely inherent to the latest technologies (using AI) because TAIP from baby audio for instance is also quite CPU consuming

Scotty
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:25 pm

I'd love to see IK do a creative tape emulation with adjustable wow and flutter, tape speed adjust, some random tape drop-outs and crosstalk associated with more "lo fi" efforts and machines in a bad state of alignment/repair.

teacue
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:31 pm

Scotty wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:25 pm
I'd love to see IK do a creative tape emulation with adjustable wow and flutter, tape speed adjust, some random tape drop-outs and crosstalk associated with more "lo fi" efforts and machines in a bad state of alignment/repair.
There is a nice little gem in Amplitube called "Tape Cassette".
It has some of the features you mention: Wow, Flutter, Saturation, Tapesnaps, Erosion and Noise.

BTW it is also to find in a reduced form as one of the main effects in Sampletron 2.
I discovered "Tape Cassette" months ago through Sampletron 2 and even bought it as effect for Amplitube because it has a nice flavour I could not find in other LoFi Cassette effects.

But of course as the name implies it is about cassette and not about bigger tape machines.
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Krakatau
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:11 am

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as you can notice, CPU inprint is about 45% on Macmini M1/big sur ...either on 8 core or "optimized as recommended" (4 core)
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Aloysius
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:19 am

Would this qualify for the group buy?
Hi-de-Hi!

Daimonicon
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:49 am

Aloysius wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:19 am
Would this qualify for the group buy?
No.

kmonkey
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:24 am

Krakatau wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:11 am
Capture d’écran 2021-10-15 à 11.04.21.png

as you can notice, CPU inprint is about 45% on Macmini M1/big sur ...either on 8 core or "optimized as recommended" (4 core)
Well that's weird then. On my Ryzen 5900 it's around 7%-8%. Perhaps it's because this isn't native to M1 or there is a bug or something. You should report a ticket.Anyway I would expect better CPU utilization I mean not 45%.

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Aloysius
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:27 am

Daimonicon wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:49 am
Aloysius wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:19 am
Would this qualify for the group buy?
No.
Thank you :)
Hi-de-Hi!

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Krakatau
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:46 am

kmonkey wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:24 am
On my Ryzen 5900 it's around 7%-8%. Perhaps it's because this isn't native to M1 or there is a bug or something.
very likely

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jamcat
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Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:44 pm

Krakatau wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:11 am
as you can notice, CPU inprint is about 45% on Macmini M1/big sur ...either on 8 core or "optimized as recommended" (4 core)
That's identical to my 2016 MacBook Pro.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

sidrat
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508 posts since 10 Aug, 2004

Post Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:35 pm

teacue wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:31 pm
There is a nice little gem in Amplitube called "Tape Cassette".
It has some of the features you mention: Wow, Flutter, Saturation, Tapesnaps, Erosion and Noise.

BTW it is also to find in a reduced form as one of the main effects in Sampletron 2.
I discovered "Tape Cassette" months ago through Sampletron 2 and even bought it as effect for Amplitube because it has a nice flavour I could not find in other LoFi Cassette effects.
I believe this in MixBox, too. I wonder if these are all the same algos?

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