Silent PC Build - Suggestions Please!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 30 Apr, 2015
Which Mother board would you suggest for this setup? I currently have in my list the MSI Z590-A PRO ProSeries Motherboard.
I see the i9-10900K recommended over and over for audio production, it was suggested earlier in this thread that the i7-11700K would be a better choice, why is that?
I see the i9-10900K recommended over and over for audio production, it was suggested earlier in this thread that the i7-11700K would be a better choice, why is that?
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
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https://youtu.be/_NGhtvLJoUswilliam lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:52 am Which Mother board would you suggest for this setup? I currently have in my list the MSI Z590-A PRO ProSeries Motherboard.
The MSI Z590-A PRO + 10700K did OK, but it does not have a Thunderbolt header or Thunderbolt port, there are some interesting Thunderbolt audio interfaces.
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... count=4631
A reference for CPU performance for DAW workloads.I see the i9-10900K recommended over and over for audio production, it was suggested earlier in this thread that the i7-11700K would be a better choice, why is that?
https://gearspace.com/board/music-compu ... st15666573
- KVRAF
- 2946 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
You listed the 10900KF in your opening post. That one doesn't have integrated graphics. Since then you mentioned that you need a discrete card* anyway - so it doesn't matter which one you pick.william lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:52 am I see the i9-10900K recommended over and over for audio production, it was suggested earlier in this thread that the i7-11700K would be a better choice, why is that?
*Graphics cards have been over-the-top expensive since 2020. No improvement in sight.
- KVRAF
- 2946 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Do you mean UAD?
I find RME the most interesting interfaces (I have a Fireface UC) and they don't need Thunderbolt.
The OP doesn't mention the need for many inputs/outputs or DSP processing...
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
True, but without the built-in Intel GPU there will be no Intel CODEC QuickSyncT-CM11 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:50 am You listed the 10900KF in your opening post. That one doesn't have integrated graphics. Since then you mentioned that you need a discrete card* anyway - so it doesn't matter which one you pick.
*Graphics cards have been over-the-top expensive since 2020. No improvement in sight.
that may help if the GPU card is weak.
No UAD.
RME is king.
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... count=4631
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 30 Apr, 2015
I have an RME FF400 that uses firewire, bought it over 10 years ago, that was actually one of my next questions...I will need a new interface, I assume I won't be able to use it due to the firewire.
So good point about the MB, thunderbolt integration could be important for the audio interface, is there a motherboard you would suggest?
So good point about the MB, thunderbolt integration could be important for the audio interface, is there a motherboard you would suggest?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 30 Apr, 2015
Those CPU tests look interesting, reference for CPU performance for DAW workloads, but I can't really interpret them...
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
i9-11900K doesn't score much more than i7-11700K, not as much as price difference suggests or that few extra cores and all that.william lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:20 pm Those CPU tests look interesting, reference for CPU performance for DAW workloads, but I can't really interpret them...
Because people assume it's best thing one can buy and that is much better than i7, because it's i9, well, it's really not the case.I see the i9-10900K recommended over and over for audio production
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
There's PCIe Firewire cards, maybe try that before going into extra expense, some colleagues had great experience even with cheap ones, not just Texas Instrument ones, like this onewilliam lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:16 pm I have an RME FF400 that uses firewire, bought it over 10 years ago, that was actually one of my next questions...I will need a new interface, I assume I won't be able to use it due to the firewire.
So good point about the MB, thunderbolt integration could be important for the audio interface, is there a motherboard you would suggest?
https://www.amazon.com/Firewire-Expansi ... B004F3DM6C
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
This card is working with audio interfaceswilliam lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:16 pm I have an RME FF400 that uses firewire, bought it over 10 years ago, that was actually one of my next questions...I will need a new interface, I assume I won't be able to use it due to the firewire.
So good point about the MB, thunderbolt integration could be important for the audio interface, is there a motherboard you would suggest?
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Por ... B08339PGM8
The GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS Elite you first selected has a Thunderbolt header, later you can add a Thunderbolt card.
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=405william lawes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:20 pm Those CPU tests look interesting, reference for CPU performance for DAW workloads, but I can't really interpret them...
From https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cpu-test ... lts/744061
"For those who don’t know how the test results differ and don’t want to read up on it
the short version is that the DSP test focuses on running plugins whereas the “VI”
test focuses on the number of voices played back when using virtual instruments.
There’s an argument to be made then that if you’re mostly mixing and not playing
back instruments in realtime the DSP test might be a better indicator of what
performance you’ll get, whereas if you play virtual instruments in realtime
the “VI” test is more appropriate.
Please note: this test is performed using Reaper which if I understand correctly
scales much better across CPU cores than Cubase/Nuendo does.
So the test shows the relative performance between the CPUs, not an absolute
number that you can achieve in Cubase/Nuendo."
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 30 Apr, 2015
I have just been researching about motherboards and there are a few choices, what do you think?
MOBO
ASUS Prime Z590-A LGA 1200 (Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Motherboard (14+2 DrMOS Power Stages,3X M.2, Intel® 2.5 Gb LAN, USB 3.2 Front Panel Type-C, Thunderbolt™ 4, Aura Sync RGB Lighting)
$338.98
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/Intel WiFi 6/2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$309.28
GIGABYTE Z590 Vision G (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$279.99
GIGABYTE Z590 UD (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen 2/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$258.59
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS Elite (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/ 2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$229.99
Passive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
MSI GT 1030 2GH LP OC Graphic Cards
$199.38
ASUS GeForce GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 HDMI DVI Graphics Card (GT1030-2G-CSM)
$169.99
SSD
(I was going to get 2 of these) Mushkin Pilot-E – 2TB PCIe NVMe – Opal Data Encryption – M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) – Gen3 x4 – 3D TLC - (MKNSSDPE2TB-D8)
$269.99
Samsung 980 PRO SSD 500GB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V8P500B/AM)
$139.99
OS
Windows 10 Home USB - Full Version 32 & 64 Bit - English - Lifetime License for 1 PC
$129.99
MOBO
ASUS Prime Z590-A LGA 1200 (Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Motherboard (14+2 DrMOS Power Stages,3X M.2, Intel® 2.5 Gb LAN, USB 3.2 Front Panel Type-C, Thunderbolt™ 4, Aura Sync RGB Lighting)
$338.98
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/Intel WiFi 6/2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$309.28
GIGABYTE Z590 Vision G (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$279.99
GIGABYTE Z590 UD (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen 2/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$258.59
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS Elite (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/ 2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$229.99
Passive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
MSI GT 1030 2GH LP OC Graphic Cards
$199.38
ASUS GeForce GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 HDMI DVI Graphics Card (GT1030-2G-CSM)
$169.99
SSD
(I was going to get 2 of these) Mushkin Pilot-E – 2TB PCIe NVMe – Opal Data Encryption – M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) – Gen3 x4 – 3D TLC - (MKNSSDPE2TB-D8)
$269.99
Samsung 980 PRO SSD 500GB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V8P500B/AM)
$139.99
OS
Windows 10 Home USB - Full Version 32 & 64 Bit - English - Lifetime License for 1 PC
$129.99
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Seems like ADK is using Asus one mostly in their builds, maybe go for that one too.
- KVRian
- 935 posts since 21 Aug, 2017 from Brasil
They are all good, I friend just got the Elite + 11700K and it is satisfied.william lawes wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:35 pm I have just been researching about motherboards and there are a few choices, what do you think?
MOBO
ASUS Prime Z590-A LGA 1200 (Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Motherboard (14+2 DrMOS Power Stages,3X M.2, Intel® 2.5 Gb LAN, USB 3.2 Front Panel Type-C, Thunderbolt™ 4, Aura Sync RGB Lighting)
$338.98
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/Intel WiFi 6/2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$309.28
GIGABYTE Z590 Vision G (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$279.99
GIGABYTE Z590 UD (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen 2/2.5GbE LAN/Motherboard)
$258.59
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS Elite (LGA 1200/ Intel Z590/ ATX/Triple M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/ 2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$229.99
The Prime and the PRO has stronger VRM, good for the higher CPU models.
The MSI has a DisplayPort + HDMIPassive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
MSI GT 1030 2GH LP OC Graphic Cards
$199.38
ASUS GeForce GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 HDMI DVI Graphics Card (GT1030-2G-CSM)
$169.99
The Asus has a Single-link DVI-D + HDMI
Get the OEMSSD
(I was going to get 2 of these) Mushkin Pilot-E – 2TB PCIe NVMe – Opal Data Encryption – M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) – Gen3 x4 – 3D TLC - (MKNSSDPE2TB-D8)
$269.99
Samsung 980 PRO SSD 500GB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal Solid State Drive with V-NAND Technology (MZ-V8P500B/AM)
$139.99
OS
Windows 10 Home USB - Full Version 32 & 64 Bit - English - Lifetime License for 1 PC
$129.99
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/adver ... 1021).html
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 101 posts since 30 Apr, 2015
Narrowed it down, are there benchmark tests for these two boards, they both sound good...
MOBO
ASUS Prime Z590-A LGA 1200 (Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Motherboard (14+2 DrMOS Power Stages,3X M.2, Intel® 2.5 Gb LAN, USB 3.2 Front Panel Type-C, Thunderbolt™ 4, Aura Sync RGB Lighting)
$338.98
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/Intel WiFi 6/2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$309.28
Passive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
OS
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
MOBO
ASUS Prime Z590-A LGA 1200 (Intel®11th/10th Gen) ATX Motherboard (14+2 DrMOS Power Stages,3X M.2, Intel® 2.5 Gb LAN, USB 3.2 Front Panel Type-C, Thunderbolt™ 4, Aura Sync RGB Lighting)
$338.98
GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX (LGA 1200/Intel Z590/ATX/3x M.2/PCIe 4.0/USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/Intel WiFi 6/2.5GbE LAN/Gaming Motherboard)
$309.28
Passive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
OS
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
- KVRAF
- 2946 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Why?william lawes wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:27 am Passive GPU
ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition 2GB DDR3 PCI HDMI DVI Graphics Card ZT-71113-20L
$215.42
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/N ... vsm1498842