I would never consider Falcon lush...
I have other synths that give me lush though.
Definitely everyone hears stuff differently.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
some are lush there for me too, so strange you don t find falcon lush , maybe we don t use the same module inside, falcon still has a more unic sound than all these synths, beeing "romplers" or emulation.. it s hard to find a new digital synth with a strong unic caractere to me, it s one of the strenght, like nord leads 4 i was listening, nothing sound like it.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 11 Mar, 2021 from Romania
I don't have PP but I watched quite a bit about it.spoontechnique wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:01 pm Why can't you have powerful modulation and powerful synthesis engines? Phase Plant and others certainly do it.
Certainly very powerful in what it does (way more powerful than distinct Falcon modules) but very limited overall compared to Falcon.
A great sound design tool, but a lot less of a musical instrument, compared to Falcon (and I think this is one of the biggest strenghts of Falcon).
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia
I think people are conflating oscillators with sound. Because of Falcons powerful modulating and layering, you could really give your sounds whatever feeling you want - except maybe the classic "FM from B" dubstep growl since Falcon's FM capabilities are pretty limited (that'd be crazy awesome if it opened up).
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- KVRist
- 108 posts since 20 Aug, 2008
For what it's worth, a few years ago I compared the sound of the same samples with Kontakt and with the free UVI Workstation, which I believe is the origin of Falcon's sample playback engine. I found the sound of UVI Workstation to be much better.
Also Ircam Stretch gives better results than the other stretch engines I tried, including non real-time.
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 1 Jul, 2019
Falcon is probably the least preset synth I know. It's a sandbox. The first vst synth that feels like it's not intentionally restricted... It's a blank canvas. And it sounds okay. A bit clean, sterile even, compared to U-he's stuff and Omnisphere, those has their own fingerprint. I wish that (maybe) upcoming Zebra3 will have somewhat same workflow and possibilities than Falcon...
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- KVRAF
- 10359 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Oh please God no!!
Zebra's workflow is far superior to Falcon's, in my opinion. It would be a significant regression if it took any "ideas" from Falcon.
While Falcon is capable and all, it's workflow is definitely not one of it's strong suits.
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
granular seems great also, but i m not specialist.Widowsky wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:38 pmFor what it's worth, a few years ago I compared the sound of the same samples with Kontakt and with the free UVI Workstation, which I believe is the origin of Falcon's sample playback engine. I found the sound of UVI Workstation to be much better.
Also Ircam Stretch gives better results than the other stretch engines I tried, including non real-time.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
agree but zebra with all the feature of falcon would be hard to use as well with that user interface
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- KVRAF
- 4218 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Fantastic. Probably the best granular engine around at the moment imo.kobal wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:59 pmgranular seems great also, but i m not specialist.Widowsky wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:38 pmFor what it's worth, a few years ago I compared the sound of the same samples with Kontakt and with the free UVI Workstation, which I believe is the origin of Falcon's sample playback engine. I found the sound of UVI Workstation to be much better.
Also Ircam Stretch gives better results than the other stretch engines I tried, including non real-time.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505 - KVRAF
- 6196 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Oscillators can contribute to the sound, it's not the only thing of course.functionform wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:16 pm I think people are conflating oscillators with sound. Because of Falcons powerful modulating and layering, you could really give your sounds whatever feeling you want - except maybe the classic "FM from B" dubstep growl since Falcon's FM capabilities are pretty limited (that'd be crazy awesome if it opened up).
