GigPerformer 4 ,.. good for slave-PC ?
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- KVRian
- 878 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
GigPerformer 4 could be bought for the ongoing 29.99 deals
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... mer_4.html
Consider using it for some 4790K slaves for main PC hosting both effects and instruments
Good idea ?
What are the alternatives ?
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... mer_4.html
Consider using it for some 4790K slaves for main PC hosting both effects and instruments
Good idea ?
What are the alternatives ?
HM
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Gig Performer 4 isn't included in the sale ... You can buy the earlier version Gig Performer 3. I bought it but haven't had a chance to really give it a workout. If you buy 3 they will likely give you a cheaper upgrade path to 4 which will appear in your account. It shows that I can upgrade 3 to 4 for 99 USD.I am happy with 3 for now.HM wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:01 am GigPerformer 4 could be bought for the ongoing 29.99 deals
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... mer_4.html
Consider using it for some 4790K slaves for main PC hosting both effects and instruments
Good idea ?
What are the alternatives ?
"** These products are NOT included in this promotion:
AMEK EQ200, Black Box HG-2MS, Brainworx bx_console AMEK 9099, bx_console SSL 9000 J, bx_limiter TRUE PEAK, DS Audio TANTRA 2, dearVR PRO, dearVR MONITOR, Gig Performer 4, Lindell Audio 50 Series, Shadow Hills Class A, Unfiltered Audio LO-FI-AF"
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
Thanks, sorry I did look the exclusion-list, but not carefull enoughScotty wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:00 pmGig Performer 4 isn't included in the sale ... You can buy the earlier version Gig Performer 3. I bought it but haven't had a chance to really give it a workout. If you buy 3 they will likely give you a cheaper upgrade path to 4 which will appear in your account. It shows that I can upgrade 3 to 4 for 99 USD.I am happy with 3 for now.HM wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:01 am GigPerformer 4 could be bought for the ongoing 29.99 deals
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... mer_4.html
Consider using it for some 4790K slaves for main PC hosting both effects and instruments
Good idea ?
What are the alternatives ?
"** These products are NOT included in this promotion:
AMEK EQ200, Black Box HG-2MS, Brainworx bx_console AMEK 9099, bx_console SSL 9000 J, bx_limiter TRUE PEAK, DS Audio TANTRA 2, dearVR PRO, dearVR MONITOR, Gig Performer 4, Lindell Audio 50 Series, Shadow Hills Class A, Unfiltered Audio LO-FI-AF"
Will be version 3 for now, version 4 later then,..
Did look throug the manual ,.. seemingly no ethernet hook-up ,.. kinda suprised me
HM
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
Still interested in alternative for all kinda hosts to slave-computers ,..
Making the slaves a stand-alone host for both instruments and effects
Work with both old desk and S1 DAW
Network link will be welcome, as long as its rock-solid and uncomplicated IRL
If no easy network is possible it will be old-fassioned midi-interfaces, and master-synced adat-ports doing the job
Making the slaves a stand-alone host for both instruments and effects
Work with both old desk and S1 DAW
Network link will be welcome, as long as its rock-solid and uncomplicated IRL
If no easy network is possible it will be old-fassioned midi-interfaces, and master-synced adat-ports doing the job
HM
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- KVRAF
- 3220 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
My goal is to use it on a mobile laptop setup for very minimal live play. I could use a daw but this looks like there is some live set management . I’ll try it out.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I don't get what a slave machine has particularly to do with this; it looks like a standalone plugins host with a MIDI player of some sort.
Slave computer and standalone both means you're going to be running audio from the slave back to say a sequencing master, via an audio interface and lightpipe or SPDIF back to your master interface... people for years avoid that and use VE Pro and a CAT 6 cable. Unless this is supposed to be a competitor to VE Pro at 30 bucks, one tends toward skepticism there.
The whole vibe of this product seems janky tbh. Not getting why two machines are needed for live work, a lot of moving parts there. The reason for slaves is master for a DAW and slave to run plugins. So if you have an old computer as master and need to run a slave just to have plugins perform decently, you want a networked thing over ethernet. REAPER has an internal one, not a lot to write home about however. VST Host. Mainstage on the Mac platform, there used to be a Logic node thing, donno much about.
Slave computer and standalone both means you're going to be running audio from the slave back to say a sequencing master, via an audio interface and lightpipe or SPDIF back to your master interface... people for years avoid that and use VE Pro and a CAT 6 cable. Unless this is supposed to be a competitor to VE Pro at 30 bucks, one tends toward skepticism there.
The whole vibe of this product seems janky tbh. Not getting why two machines are needed for live work, a lot of moving parts there. The reason for slaves is master for a DAW and slave to run plugins. So if you have an old computer as master and need to run a slave just to have plugins perform decently, you want a networked thing over ethernet. REAPER has an internal one, not a lot to write home about however. VST Host. Mainstage on the Mac platform, there used to be a Logic node thing, donno much about.
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
Wat, GigPerformer has nothing to do with network os anything master/slave related. It's a streamlined VST host oriented to live performance, petty much in the line of Cantabile, Mainstage (except that GP does't have any sound library at all) or other hosts.jancivil wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:57 pm Unless this is supposed to be a competitor to VE Pro at 30 bucks, one tends toward skepticism there.
The whole vibe of this product seems janky tbh. Not getting why two machines are needed for live work, a lot of moving parts there.
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- KVRist
- 59 posts since 24 Mar, 2014
Gig Performer has a strong OSC implementation and you can absolutely communicate over multiple machines --- for example, you can trivially send MIDI messages wrapped in OSC to leverage the VSTs loaded in Gig Performer from other applications --- indeed that was one of the original design goals as I needed to be able to drive Gig Performer from existing MaxMSP patches that I had developed for use on tour before we created Gig Performerwaltercruz wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:32 pm Wat, GigPerformer has nothing to do with network os anything master/slave related.
Uh, the Deskew version of GP comes with quite a few plugins to help users who have zero experience with the plugin world to get started. If you have the Plugin Alliance version and you are a PA subscriber, you will also have access to their plugins as well.waltercruz wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:32 pm (except that GP does't have any sound library at all) or other hosts.
That said, we deliberately do not include a comprehensive collection of plugins of our own for two reasons (which we have mentioned since introduction of GP1 a few years ago)
1. We expect that users will want to use their own favorite plugins that they already have from well-known companies (e.g, NI, Arturia, Modart, AAS, Uhe, Overloud, Positive Grid, etc). That has been born out from experience
2. There are lots of free plugins out there, many of which are absolutely superb, that users can just download and use with Gig Performer.
Our focus therefore is for GP to be the top quality host for musicians to manage their performance and we prefer to leave plugin development to those whose expertise is in that area.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
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- KVRist
- 352 posts since 24 Aug, 2017
It was for a while because I did buy it for 29 with the first code.Scotty wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:00 pmGig Performer 4 isn't included in the sale ... You can buy the earlier version Gig Performer 3. I bought it but haven't had a chance to really give it a workout. If you buy 3 they will likely give you a cheaper upgrade path to 4 which will appear in your account. It shows that I can upgrade 3 to 4 for 99 USD.I am happy with 3 for now.HM wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:01 am GigPerformer 4 could be bought for the ongoing 29.99 deals
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... mer_4.html
Consider using it for some 4790K slaves for main PC hosting both effects and instruments
Good idea ?
What are the alternatives ?
"** These products are NOT included in this promotion:
AMEK EQ200, Black Box HG-2MS, Brainworx bx_console AMEK 9099, bx_console SSL 9000 J, bx_limiter TRUE PEAK, DS Audio TANTRA 2, dearVR PRO, dearVR MONITOR, Gig Performer 4, Lindell Audio 50 Series, Shadow Hills Class A, Unfiltered Audio LO-FI-AF"
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
No way to tell if the person asking has that kind of edge case in mind, but for the rest of us the terminology master and slave indicates something not very like it. It means there is a master where a DAW resides sending to a slave where the heavy lifting of virtual instruments, and FX, is done and the audio from the slave is consequently heard on the master. In the old days soundcard to soundcard. OSC may be transmitted via the internet, master to slave as I describe herein not at all, it's something else with different demands.deskew wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:05 pmGig Performer has a strong OSC implementation and you can absolutely communicate over multiple machines --- for example, you can trivially send MIDI messages wrapped in OSC to leverage the VSTs loaded in Gig Performer from other applications --- indeed that was one of the original design goals as I needed to be able to drive Gig Performer from existing MaxMSP patches that I had developed for use on tour before we created Gig Performerwaltercruz wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:32 pm GigPerformer has nothing to do with [...] anything master/slave related.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 878 posts since 14 Aug, 2001
English is not my birth-language ,.. but I thought I made myself perfectly clearjancivil wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:10 amNo way to tell if the person asking has that kind of edge case in mind, but for the rest of us the terminology master and slave indicates something not very like it. It means there is a master where a DAW resides sending to a slave where the heavy lifting of virtual instruments, and FX, is done and the audio from the slave is consequently heard on the master. In the old days soundcard to soundcard. OSC may be transmitted via the internet, master to slave as I describe herein not at all, it's something else with different demands.deskew wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 8:05 pmGig Performer has a strong OSC implementation and you can absolutely communicate over multiple machines --- for example, you can trivially send MIDI messages wrapped in OSC to leverage the VSTs loaded in Gig Performer from other applications --- indeed that was one of the original design goals as I needed to be able to drive Gig Performer from existing MaxMSP patches that I had developed for use on tour before we created Gig Performerwaltercruz wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:32 pm GigPerformer has nothing to do with [...] anything master/slave related.
YES ,.. master/slave I just use in normal sense ,.. DAW load being distributed
I got more precise by adding that that I work with old desk also, and could use mix of soft-eff
Also I mentioned my thoughts about network/ethernet
Anyway GigPerformer is what the word indicates, for GIG's, and not really for studio it seems
So guess its Vienna or AudioGridder ,.. or forget the hole thing
HM
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- KVRist
- 59 posts since 24 Mar, 2014
And yet session musicians use it in the studio all time - routing its outputs to a DAW (or in the case of guitarists, routing to their amp with a mic in front) rather than to a PA system - the benefit being that the musician, creating their actual sound and real-time control of it with Gig Performer can record their results for an album and then use exactly the same sounds with the same real-time control when they're on stage. That transition is extremely hard to do if you use a DAW to create your sounds.HM wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:34 am Anyway GigPerformer is what the word indicates, for GIG's, and not really for studio it seems
Rather than being part of the recording engineer's arsenal, think of Gig Performer as being part of the musician's "arsenal", just like the rest of their keyboards or guitars or effects pedals.
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- KVRist
- 59 posts since 24 Mar, 2014
Sure --- and again, that's totally feasible with GP -- run your DAW -- send MIDI from the DAW to GP on another machine over your network (AudioMIDI network on a Mac, or ipMIDI, to name just a few approaches) and use a variety of backends to send the audio back from GP to your DAW - or perhaps just use interfaces at both ends that support lightpipe, etc. Lots of approaches.HM wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:34 am It means there is a master where a DAW resides sending to a slave where the heavy lifting of virtual instruments, and FX, is done and the audio from the slave is consequently heard on the master
You'd be surprised at the flexibility.