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vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:42 pm

i just dont see the point, using the same daw as someone is as likely to make you sound like them as using the same guitar and amp as someone does.
it doesnt.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:12 pm

Iirc, Danny Elfman is strictly into DP, as are a few other composers. I'm sure Motu's site will be quite happy to tell you about them.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:14 pm

syntonica wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:12 pm Iirc, Danny Elfman is strictly into DP,

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:43 pm

vurt wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:42 pm i just dont see the point, using the same daw as someone is as likely to make you sound like them as using the same guitar and amp as someone does.
it doesnt.

Of course, don’t find all users of PT mixing the same even with same set of tools, even they can’t mix the same as their mentors, everyone got a style and will mix the same song differently.

My friend doesn’t make same videos as others just because he also uses Adobe. It’s just tools that are established in industries, he needed to learn Adobe so he can work in company, now he needs to use Adobe because bunch of work he gets to work with is Adobe related, there’s Blackmagic and he uses it for his own things, but when he is doing something bigger and in teams, it’s Adobe.

Same goes for PT, that’s what major mixing studio uses and major mixing engineers that are mixing movies, that’s what students learn to use and what they need to know if they want to work in those studios.

Mixing Hollywood movies is job for handful of pro’s, same as scoring same movies or even doing trailers for same, there’s strict criteria that needs to be met and just handful of people are given that chance.

vurt wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:34 pm yep, im sure we can all find examples of a film, that was "scored" using something like live or fruity... (maybe not hollywood level, but lots of indie stuff...)
but thats the composition stage at most, it will then be dumped to audio, to be mixed to the film, in one of the industry standards, that work with video time codes and such.

Exactly!

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:07 pm

jancivil wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:05 pm There are very specific and clear reasons Zimmer, Holkenborg, Silvestri et al use Cubase or Nuendo rather than Fruity or Live, whatever age one is.
There're undeniable reasons people are using VE Pro and MIR Pro by the same token. And the integration between VEP and Cubendo is seamless and dead easy to set up.

Exactly!

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:04 am

For the music : whatever the composer prefers

for the dialogue, foley, all other sound, and final mix : Protools, with occasional chance of Nuendo.

end of story.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:32 am

What films were scored with Ableton?

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:59 am

v1o wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:32 am What films were scored with Ableton?

Lawrence of Arabia

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:04 am

v1o wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:32 am What films were scored with Ableton?

they live

t3toooo · Post by **t3toooo** » Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:19 am

A DAW has no "Sound"

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:30 am

As DaVinci Resolve has a full Fairlight built in, I can imagine that the final mix and cuts are done in there. The scoring and composing for sure @ 100% in other DAWs… Its a matter of workflow how much back and forth you need…
The only cinema film score mix I was involved in, I was operating my Sonic Solution system which was used by the dialog cutter…
Mixing a film needs a lot of specialists. One for dialog, one for foley, one for special fx, one for music etc… They most likely all use different tools. Sfx is often done with Kyma for example…

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:22 pm

One thing I saw recently was Elfman handles all the recording and setup of the orchestra himself, rents the hall and everything. This is a hat that's not at all the same hat as writing a score. Also he's said that most of the percussion in one of his scores is virtual or he's recording himself performing it.
More and more is in the DAW, and the Meyerson deal there shows that a real hall is no longer de rigeur.

Frequently I hear scores with such sound design one would tend to assume it has to be all integrated into a workflow in a DAW. Then I hear the same quality in films from 'the before times'. I do think composers can haz more control this way.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:27 pm

jancivil wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:22 pm One thing I saw recently was Elfman handles all the recording and setup of the orchestra himself, rents the hall and everything. This is a hat that's not at all the same hat as writing a score. Also he's said that most of the percussion in one of his scores is virtual or he's recording himself performing it.
More and more is in the DAW, and the Meyerson deal there shows that a real hall is no longer de rigeur.

Frequently I hear scores with such sound design one would tend to assume it has to be all integrated into a workflow in a DAW. Then I hear the same quality in films from 'the before times'. I do think composers can haz more control this way.

not a huge elfman fan, nothing against him, just not much that captivates me...
but his batman stuff was superb!
especially on the animated series, it just feels "gotham"

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:30 pm

I don't think I'll be buying a record by Elfman, but there are things to learn from. He's not a trained composer, he made it up as he went.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:50 am

vurt wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:13 pm nosferatu

What DAW Was Used On What Film ?