KVR Audio

russell · Post by **russell** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:59 pm

i really, really, need a program which will allow me to draw waveforms, specifically drums, and even whole patterns of drums.

is there one available?

something with the power of cut and paste, so i can view other peoples waveforms, learn what makes them sound a certain way, then draw,cut,paste merge etc?

one which you can draw a long wave, such as a string/pad?

i have found sawcutter, but the wave you can draw is only one cyclic length, not very easy to use for drums. same with any additive ive seen, the waves are too short.

thanks!

*edit* something like goldwave with a powerful draw function? i.e has a zoom function and maybe grid points, line tools etc?

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:51 am

Sound Forge, maybe?

Has a draw, and a very high-rez zoom.

Not sure how much it has changed now that Sony owns it, as I'm still using v6.

russell · Post by **russell** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:07 am

ive just been using the demo, doesnt really work.

i need a resize function, (up and down, left and right) so i can copy cycles, making them tighter,looser,louder etc, to emulate a drum, or certain sound. i tried in soundforge and it took ages and ages. my drawing isnt so good with a mouse as well

im probably barking up the wrong tree anyways, im just trying every approach possible, you know how it is

Katanaman · Post by **Katanaman** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:15 am

If you want to make drums, look for Stomper. I'm not sure that's what you're looking for but look for it in Google anyway. You might find it useful(who doesn't?).

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:17 am

There is SawCutter.
It has a version 1.0 which is free and a version 2.0 which is commercial.

http://www.cuttermusic.com/products.htm

I don't know if it's what you're looking for though.

Caleb

russell · Post by **russell** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:08 pm

tis impossible this is

well, so much for that idea, a bit of a long shot to begin with. takes ages to do anything, and that anything wasnt nearly like the original.

any mind-to-audio plugins?

kevink · Post by **kevink** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:25 pm

It's not at all clear how useful a thing this would really be. I've seen various tools for drawing freehand waveforms, but the problem is that two waveforms which look more-or-less the same can in fact sound very different to the ear, while two waveforms that look totally different (but which have the same spectral content) can sound identical.

Katanaman · Post by **Katanaman** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:42 pm

You could, perhaps, try the VSTi Harboiled Wonderland, too. Again, I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, but meh... It's free and you can find in this website. And I still think you should try Stomper.

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:25 pm

kevink wrote:It's not at all clear how useful a thing this would really be. I've seen various tools for drawing freehand waveforms, but the problem is that two waveforms which look more-or-less the same can in fact sound very different to the ear, while two waveforms that look totally different (but which have the same spectral content) can sound identical.

This is exactly why it is interesting.

Groet, Erik

russell · Post by **russell** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:46 am

waveforms which look more-or-less the same can in fact sound very different to the ear, while two waveforms that look totally different (but which have the same spectral content) can sound identical

is that anything to do with matter coming from nothing?

ill shut up now...

i d/loaded stomper, will try it out. i like drumsyn also.

i will also try hardboiled-thingmie-tight.

thanks

drawing waveform program