So in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
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Yes because that’s exactly what I said.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
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Yeah the midi velocity compression (one of the most basic things you should be able to easily do with midi) is horrendous.It feels like the default behavior and priorities for updates are made for some project manager that doesn't actually use the software that much or has a very peculiar workflow.
Image doesn't work for me. Feel free to describe it.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:47 pmbriefcasemanx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:52 pm Great. How do you set partial quantize strength to not be the default 50%?
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It's the consequence of what you said.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:28 pmYes because that’s exactly what I said.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
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One day I gotta find out why everyone wants to make every DAW exactly the same like all the others. On the other hand, I already know why. "OMG, Bitwig has this and that!! I want have that too, or I will switch DAW's!! Neener-neener!!!".
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It's really not.chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:45 pmIt's the consequence of what you said.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:28 pmYes because that’s exactly what I said.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
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Balls, you can have loads of tabbed views available without cluttering anything e.g. the optional lanes for markers, chords etc at the top of the DAW.chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:45 pmIt's the consequence of what you said.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:28 pmYes because that’s exactly what I said.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
Again, just because a majority of people don’t use something isn’t a good enough argument. There will be features in S1 others use that I never will - the Sphere integration, the S1 instruments and effects, the real time EQ in the mixer view etc. I don’t care about any of that, maybe I’m in the majority there, but I’m not advocating it being removed just because I don’t plan to use it.
See also anything re video or surround mixing. I can see why people might want those features because I’m not blinkered on what a DAW is for.
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It is. "Studio One is pretty weak at MIDI and way behind many others in third party MIDI effect plugin handling" is a criticism implying that Studio One should get more advanced MIDI features. When you say at the same time that it's pretty meaningless that the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing, then obviously, you consider it a good idea to complicate the DAW and the interface for the 1% of users which rather have more sophisticaed MIDI features.briefcasemanx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:48 pmIt's really not.chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:45 pmIt's the consequence of what you said.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:28 pmYes because that’s exactly what I said.antic604 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:21 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:07 pm“ S1 midi is 99% there for the vast majority of users” is pretty meaningless as the vast majority of users will be doing very basic MIDI sequencing.
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So in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?
Find the contradiction.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:56 pm Balls, you can have loads of tabbed views available without cluttering anything e.g. the optional lanes for markers, chords etc at the top of the DAW.
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Optional, not mandatorychk071 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:58 pmSo in other words devs should clutter and complicate the interface for that 1%?Find the contradiction.WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:56 pm Balls, you can have loads of tabbed views available without cluttering anything e.g. the optional lanes for markers, chords etc at the top of the DAW.
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Well... not that I don't know that Studio One will end up being more and more cluttered anyway. It's just the way things go these days, when you have to sell your "generous" customers, who are so horny for new stuff, paid upgrades every 2 years.
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Or I’m paying licenses for four DAWs because there isn’t one that does enough of what I want to just use one.
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... which is fair enough, if you "need" exactly those features. The alternative would be for you to code your own DAW, and build in exactly what you want in it.
Or... you could try Reaper. I heard it can do anything.
Or... you could try Reaper. I heard it can do anything.
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My day job’s coding. The last thing I want to do is code after work.
I also make it clear I would like/want certain features, I don’t actually need any of this stuff.