Should I try Logic pro as an alternative to Studio one 5?

[roman.i]

Well, the story is that I'm tired of Ableton.
Because I have a Presonus audio interface I've got Studio One 5 Artist, which feels excellent, much more "pro" than the Ableton 10 suite that I have. The pro version of Studio one seems even more complete.
I'm on MAC, I thought maybe I'll try to Logic pro, but can't install it on the current OS, I need to upgrade to install trial and then I'll loose some of my old plugins.
Does the Logic pro interface/workflow better than the Studio one? Not sure if it worth the hassle.

Thanks

[sprnva]

What OS are you on (I'm thinking maybe Mojave as you talk about losing old plugins)?

The first release of the Logic trial version ran on High Sierra and this is what I used (I had to upgrade from Sierra which wasn't too big a jump). I just searched around until I found a news story with a link to the older download.

It should be possible to find a working trial version so you can try it out for yourself.

[syntonica]

I've used Logic since v5. It's interface sucked when I started and Apple has only made it worse.

What little I've tried of S1, I really enjoyed the workflow. It made total sense to me. Apple has me running to their manuals on all their software on where to find and how to do the simplest things.

Pros for Logic are a very large set of world-class plugins, both instruments and effects. However, they slowly drag you down the upgrade path of you need the new features they dangle in from of you. If or when you buy a new Mac, then it's worth considering.

Otherwise, I'd stick with the S1 version you have, especially if you already have a full suite of plugins that you love. There's really nothing in the full version that tempts Mee over what Artist offers.

[roman.i]

I'm on Catalina, "old" plugins from Waves version 11 which don't run on Macos 11 (Big Sur).

[sprnva]

I thought there was a list of links somewhere online for the different LPX trials. I guess I was wrong. There is for FCPX.

Anyhoo, I think this is the link for the LPX 10.6.3 trial which is still Catalina-friendly.

[Passing Bye]

Of course, it's no brainier, 7 years of free updates, DAW right now is short of amazing feature wise.

[pdxindy]

Logic is very well rounded. Someone could use only Logic and all the instruments and fx that come with it and produce stuff at the highest level.

Logic is also only $200 and in a bunch of years since I bought it, I haven't had to pay any more for it and it keeps developing in effective ways. The Logic development team has been on it the past few years. Best bang for the buck in a DAW.

I also really like Logic Remote on my iPad Pro. For me and my sensibilities, the best midi controller because there aren't button combos etc to remember. If I don't use it for a couple weeks, no problem. First time I used Logic Remote I had everything figured out in 10 minutes.

You have to decide if it is worth to lose some plugins to try Logic. I was on Catalina until last week then upgraded to Big Sur and then Monterey. I was surprised to find that my existing laptop actually performed a bit better after updating. Now I have one of the new 16" MBP's.

I like Logic better overall, but there are some cool implementations of stuff in S1. I think you cannot go wrong with either DAW.

[xbitz]

Logic can use third-party MIDI FX plugins, googled a list viewtopic.php?t=483854 and has modulation plugins (and Alchemy for sound design)

S1 is better for mixing, you can check the comparison list too https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html they are quite similar maybe Logic can be used better for creative and S1 for post-production related tasks but they are quite close to each other (for ex. AFAIK Logic hasn't got chord track but has clip launcher)

so if you've never seen
Logic has dedicated slot(s) for MIDI manipulation/modulation realted plugin(s) the MIDI FX one(s) on left-middle just under the eq no needs additionally routing they're simpy plug'n'play ones

[sockofgold]

Logic has better included instruments and effects, and the UI is a bit more legible, but beyond that I would say Studio One is superior in every way (and you most likely already have a nice library of 3rd-party plugins anyway). It's subjective, of course, but I find the general workflow in Logic to be just really clunky, and everything seems like it suffers from the 20+ years of legacy code (e.g. they try to hide the Environment from you, but it still heavily depends on it, so god help you if/when you need to do something there).

Even Studio One's pattern sequencing is right on par with Logic's (both are really excellent, tbh—if you like that kind of sequencing, which I do). Logic of course has Live-style clip sequencing, which S1 does not yet—but I imagine it will soon, because they have that funtionality in their "perform/song" page (or whatever it's called).

Logic also has a lot of bugs right now. After upgrading to 10.7, I find that things just randomly stop working until I reload a project. It's infuriating.

[antic604]

Well, the story is that I'm tired of Ableton.
Because I have a Presonus audio interface I've got Studio One 5 Artist, which feels excellent, much more "pro" than the Ableton 10 suite that I have. The pro version of Studio one seems even more complete.
I'm on MAC, I thought maybe I'll try to Logic pro, but can't install it on the current OS, I need to upgrade to install trial and then I'll loose some of my old plugins.
Does the Logic pro interface/workflow better than the Studio one? Not sure if it worth the hassle.

Thanks

Check this playlist - guy does a walkthrough and comparison for Logic people migrating to S1:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 33KCiS249J

[Bombadil]

Yes.

[Serhii Kot]

I am a former logic pro user (8 years of working only with it). Then I switched to PC, and as an alternative, I chose S1 because it was cheap, I bought s1 v3 for $150(or something like that) here on kvr.

In January 2021, I bought a new mac mini with an m1 processor, just to play with it and with no intention to rid of my beefy PC. Long story short, I sold my PC and now I am using MacBook Air with an m1 chip.

Back to your question. First of all, I of course decided to use logic only. But I am spoiled with so many workflow improvements in S1, that my plan was a fail.

For example: text search plugins when insert to track, macros, transform track to audio with saved instrument states, splitter, scratchpad as a track version container, etc.

I want to like Logic, very much, but after years of S1, I can't.
But if you don't earn with your music, logic and fl studio is probably the best choices.

[Etienne1973]

But if you don't earn with your music, logic and fl studio is probably the best choices.

What a professional statement.

Grass is always greener on the other side. Searching for the ultimate DAW is a waste of time.

@OP
So don't try Logic. Instead become a master of Studio One.

[Gadget Fiend]

Logic is without a doubt the most powerful DAW on the market. The MIDI is phenomenal, the score editing is nearly as full featured as software packages costing hundreds of dollars, the built in instruments and FX are as good as packages costing hundreds if not more than a thousand dollars more, and it's super cheap at only $200 (which covers the cost of free updates that continue to be free for years).

Studio One might be a little easier on which to get up to speed. But if you are willing to invest the time, Logic is the better program.

[Serhii Kot]

Studio One might be a little easier on which to get up to speed. But if you are willing to invest the time, Logic is the better program.

It is a misconception, that there are some "better" or "best" programs. Logic has its cons and pros, S1 has its cons and pros, and all DAW's has their cons and pros. I know and use regularly S1, Logic, Bitwig, Cubase, Live. And this misconception about better DAW made me check all other DAWs and this was a mistake because where you have real experience and know what each DAW is capable of, you can't choose the ONE DAW, because you like and hate them all.

There is a book, "Paradox of choice" by Barry Shwartz. That describes phenomena of more choices = more doubt and lower satisfaction of your choices.