Should I try Logic pro as an alternative to Studio one 5?

[Robmobius]

Logic is without a doubt the most powerful DAW on the market.

LOL

[plexuss]

I've been using Logic since 1987 when it was CLAB Creator. I stopped using Logic about a year ago in favour of Reaper. Logic basically stopped working for me: it was clunky, unpredicable, unreliable and bascially a POS by 10.4.8. Since switching to Reaper my music making has been enjoyable again. I have friends who use Logic Pro and report no issues, however, they a) use primarily tracked audio stems and b) no 3rd party plugins. I, on the other hand, use primarily synths and 3rd party plugins. I made a decision years ago to not use Logic's plugins so I wouldn't be as tied to the platform (I already smelled a rat). I am running macPOS 10.13 and now 10.14.

My advice would be to not bother with Logic Pro, its a bloated POS pile of useless code. However if you are using audio stems and no 3rd party plugins, but, there are much better options out there.

Example:
My one friend decided to splurge on oeksound Soothe2. He can't use it on tracks in Logic because the audio goes out of sync with the other tracks. He contacted oek and they said its a known issue with Logic and there is no solution as it appears to be an Apple issue. This is the kind of thing you'll have to deal with on Logic. I, on the other hand, have no problems with Soothe2 on Reaper. We are both using the AU version.

[Passing Bye]

I've been using Logic since 1987 when it was CLAB Creator. I stopped using Logic about a year ago in favour of Reaper. Logic basically stopped working for me: it was clunky, unpredicable, unreliable and bascially a POS by 10.4.8. Since switching to Reaper my music making has been enjoyable again. I have friends who use Logic Pro and report no issues, however, they a) use primarily tracked audio stems and b) no 3rd party plugins. I, on the other hand, use primarily synths and 3rd party plugins. I made a decision years ago to not use Logic's plugins so I wouldn't be as tied to the platform (I already smelled a rat). I am running macPOS 10.13 and now 10.14.

My advice would be to not bother with Logic Pro, its a bloated POS pile of useless code. However if you are using audio stems and no 3rd party plugins, but, there are much better options out there.

Example:
My one friend decided to splurge on oeksound Soothe2. He can't use it on tracks in Logic because the audio goes out of sync with the other tracks. He contacted oek and they said its a known issue with Logic and there is no solution as it appears to be an Apple issue. This is the kind of thing you'll have to deal with on Logic. I, on the other hand, have no problems with Soothe2 on Reaper. We are both using the AU version.

They finally fixed that in 10.6.3, now latency is properly compensated, which still isn't the case with majority of others DAW out there, except Reaper, Pro Tools and DP.

[Etienne1973]

There you have it, OP. Logic can be a pile of shit and without a doubt the most powerful DAW on our planet.

[roman.i]

@OP
So don't try Logic. Instead become a master of Studio One.

Well, I'm not trying to find the best DAW, I'm searching for a DAW that fits most for my needs.
Before that I was using Ableton, but since I moved to hardware for the creative part, I'm going to use the DAW only for mixing and arrangement. Ableton doesn't have a mixing view or an audio editor... And I always hated the monotonic interface. Continuing to evaluate S1 Artist, like it so far. Thanks for all the responses, it helps a lot.

[fmr]

There you have it, OP. Logic can be a pile of shit and without a doubt the most powerful DAW on our planet.

[plexuss]

Example:
My one friend decided to splurge on oeksound Soothe2. He can't use it on tracks in Logic because the audio goes out of sync with the other tracks. He contacted oek and they said its a known issue with Logic and there is no solution as it appears to be an Apple issue. This is the kind of thing you'll have to deal with on Logic. I, on the other hand, have no problems with Soothe2 on Reaper. We are both using the AU version.

They finally fixed that in 10.6.3, now latency is properly compensated, which still isn't the case with majority of others DAW out there, except Reaper, Pro Tools and DP.

Oh good. What a relief to know that in 2021, with version 10.6.3, Apple as finally fixed ONE of the myriad of issues with Logic that make it the POS software it still is. Oy.

[Passing Bye]

Oh good. What a relief to know that in 2021, with version 10.6.3, Apple as finally fixed ONE of the myriad of issues with Logic that make it the POS software it still is. Oy.

At least it's fixed, other DAW's still aren't, but that didn't stopped people working and making money to this day, Pro Tools is industry standard and until recently it had chaotic latency compensation, that didn't stopped anyone from working, it's just excuses, they all have shortcomings, find lesser evil and make something, easy as that.

[pdxindy]

Logic is without a doubt the most powerful DAW on the market. The MIDI is phenomenal, the score editing is nearly as full featured as software packages costing hundreds of dollars, the built in instruments and FX are as good as packages costing hundreds if not more than a thousand dollars more, and it's super cheap at only $200 (which covers the cost of free updates that continue to be free for years).

Studio One might be a little easier on which to get up to speed. But if you are willing to invest the time, Logic is the better program.

Yeah, Logic is an incredible value.

And Logic has a lot of powerful capability.

Logic has built-in Auto-Sampling. Great feature! I can auto-sample any synth, set how many key layers, velocity layers and it does it and makes a Sampler Instrument out of it.

The new Quick Sampler also samples.
Drum Machine Designer is really good.
Logics Drummer...
Surround Sound and now Dolby Atmos...
Automatic Tempo Mapping...
Flex Pitch...
and more...

I don't think Studio One does most of that.

[ShawnG]

Fwiw I vastly prefer Logic to Studio One, having used both, but even so, there’s things that studio one does better (and vice versa) and Logic isn’t so awesome that it makes me want to deal with Mac again just to use it. But if you like and own a Mac and have 200 bucks, it’s a no brainer. One of the most powerful and usable creative tools there is. Cubase does more stuff, but I’d rather work in Logic, all other things being equal.

[oneway]

@OP
So don't try Logic. Instead become a master of Studio One.

Well, I'm not trying to find the best DAW, I'm searching for a DAW that fits most for my needs.
Before that I was using Ableton, but since I moved to hardware for the creative part, I'm going to use the DAW only for mixing and arrangement. Ableton doesn't have a mixing view or an audio editor... And I always hated the monotonic interface. Continuing to evaluate S1 Artist, like it so far. Thanks for all the responses, it helps a lot.

Studio One is a nice and enjoyable program but the one warning I'll give Mac users about it is that you can't always run the newest version even if it supports your version of macOS. I had to switch back to Logic because Presonus takes such a limited approach to Mac hardware support (the computers, not peripherals). They have a relatively small user base and most of their users are on PCs so if you get unlucky and have a GPU/motherboard issue that a company like Steinberg would code a workaround for (like they did with 2019 iMacs), you might end up running an old version until you upgrade your machine.

If Studio One as is runs well on your Mac and has everything you need, then no sweat, it's great! Just keep in mind that their next major version will likely work best on the newest Mac computers at the time. They are not big on "legacy" support, at all.

[apoclypse]

I prefer S1 though its so buggy I've been moving away from it. The workflow is amazing. However if you are coming from Ableton Logic is just better and more well rounded. You have amazing intruments, and extensive included library of sounds and loops. ha pretty much every feature you can think of built in, either for midi, audio editing etc. It's also just $200 bucks, there are plugins that cost more.

S1 is a very no frills DAW. It doesn't have a lot going on in-terms of instruments or effects and that seems to be a conscious choice by the developers who seem to concentrate mostly on the core app. It's main draw is the workflow. It's very addicting in its simplicity. It works as you expect a modern DAW to work (most of the time, there are instances where S1 works backasswards for some reason).

This is a hard one. Workflow wise S1 is closer to Ableton since it has a heavy focus on drag and drop and less menu diving. Logic is more menu heavy but in-terms of features is a bit closer to Ableton.

[plexuss]

I would urge caution with the use of Logic if you use a lot of 3rd party plugins and are using 3rd party software instruments more than audio stems. Logic doesn't appear to be very robuse with 3rd party. However if you plan to stick with Logic's plugins it appears to be a reliable platform.

[pdxindy]

I would urge caution with the use of Logic if you use a lot of 3rd party plugins and are using 3rd party software instruments more than audio stems. Logic doesn't appear to be very robuse with 3rd party. However if you plan to stick with Logic's plugins it appears to be a reliable platform.

I mostly use 3rd party plugin instruments and Logic works fine.

[oneway]

I would urge caution with the use of Logic if you use a lot of 3rd party plugins and are using 3rd party software instruments more than audio stems. Logic doesn't appear to be very robuse with 3rd party. However if you plan to stick with Logic's plugins it appears to be a reliable platform.

I have found Logic to be far more stable with 3rd party plugins than Studio One, but there is a rather large ecosystem of third party devs so I could just be lucky.

When I suspected other DAWs were more stable, I created a couple identical songs in Studio One, Logic, and Cubase on Mac to test this and found that eventually the ones on Studio One would begin to crash repeatedly, Cubase had a rare crash or two, and the ones in Logic had no crashes and still load fine to this day. I showed the reports and songs to Presonus and they basically said the songs have too many third party plugins for them to figure out what the program is doing wrong, but still said it was probably the plugins' fault.