Cubase 12 leaked on Steinberg's site

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cnt wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:12 pm
BBFG# wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:24 pm ^
cnt wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:58 pm Large professional studios do have Internet connection ... and backup via the network and even use cloudservices.

You can have a secure and stable environment while having an Internet connection - OFCOURSE.

Bedroom studio users with a lot of cracked software are the ones wanting no Internet connection while using their pirated software....... for obvious reasons.

I have always had an Internet connection to my personal DAW since the 90's and also in shared studios... it was never a problem.
You dont even need CPU intensive antivirus or software firewalls. Its all about basic IT knowledge....
Just a quick burn of that strawman.
I have no cracked software, do not pirate, and prefer to have as much disconnect from internet as I can achieve.
And there's a difference between "stable" and optimized.
But why then????
There are zero reasons not to connect to a secure network with todays OS's and chipsets. If you engage in sensitive information (national security, military) sure... but for a simple audio workstation. Do you still make backups on external usb disks and move them physically each day?
Burn CD's? Talk about making life harder than it can be in 2021. :)
Updating software must be a pain!
If you think connecting an Ethernet cable makes your system unoptimized, you are not going by facts at all, only feelings.. sorry but you will not have more CPU at hand or lower latency by connecting an Ethernet cable to your computer. It is not 1994.
It is so ridicolous if you think about it...
Music-making doesn't make 100% of the audio production industry.
For example, studios that are working on video games or films may prefer to avoid internet connection to avoid a breach or data theft. Even very secretive agencies are hacked and you think that a consumer-grade 'secure network will guarantee you 100% security?
A leak of AAA (or even AA) game or movie can cost a company an enormous amount of money - in that case, having a PC off the grid is really not a big deal.

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Not sure if this is widely known but the Cubase dongle can be used remotely over a network connection. One of my mates used to travel and Gig extensively without the dongle.

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noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Hey, I'm old too! Started with Pro24...

And as a fellow oldie, I don't agree with you at all, but Steinberg have thought of you. Is one offline update per year really the end of the musical world?
Were dongles a contentious issue during the Atari days?
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v1o wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:34 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Hey, I'm old too! Started with Pro24...

And as a fellow oldie, I don't agree with you at all, but Steinberg have thought of you. Is one offline update per year really the end of the musical world?
Were dongles a contentious issue during the Atari days?
The Cubase one was. It plugged into the printer port.

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I hated those huge dongles! The USB dongle is the best, but I am also glad to free up a port. I still have an iLok.

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v1o wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:34 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Hey, I'm old too! Started with Pro24...

And as a fellow oldie, I don't agree with you at all, but Steinberg have thought of you. Is one offline update per year really the end of the musical world?
Were dongles a contentious issue during the Atari days?
Nah. Just bloody massive!

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BBFG# wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:28 pm Isn't it a illegal to to send pictures of your dongle over the internet? :hihi:
It is if your name is Weiner.

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"Would ya like to see my dongle?"
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"It's gone massive."

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egbert wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:54 am Weiner.
For German speaking folks this is truly hilarious, as it indicates that the complete context of the word you seek to use is entirely lost, so please allow me to clear that one up: the actual word would be "Wiener" which refers to something or someone coming from Wien,which is the actual name of the town called "Vienna" in English - and as such "Wiener" the way you meant to use it is an abbreviation of "Wiener Würstchen" (a "Würstchen" is a small "Wurst" (=sausage))

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v1o wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:34 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm
Hey, I'm old too! Started with Pro24...

And as a fellow oldie, I don't agree with you at all, but Steinberg have thought of you. Is one offline update per year really the end of the musical world?
Were dongles a contentious issue during the Atari days?
Hell yeah! If was far worse then than now, because the massive dongle was hopelessly unreliable. It was notorious for making the program / computer crash. In the end, despite owning a fully legal copy, I somehow acquired a pirate version which I used to run instead of mine, just so I could take the dongle out*.

Kids these days don't know how lucky they are get off my dammed lawn etc etc

*EDIT - just in case - probably worth pointing out that this excuse absolutely does NOT apply today. AND even back then I always had a legal copy.
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@Jens - the joke travels pretty well. Americans use "weenie", "weener" or one of the other spellings to connote the same thing - particular in the more european cities on the eastern seaboard like NYC. Late night TV hosts like Letterman had loads of fun with Anthony Weiner starting with his first sending of 3D images of his underpants incident in 2011. His name was pretty much central to the punchlines.

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What I meant is that as soon as you (as a culture) start turning "Wiener" into "Weiner", you basically signal having lost all competence to make that sort of pun :razz: (hint: the word is actually pronounced quite similarly to the way you'd pronounce "Vienna")

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So, basically, as ein deutschlander (geddit - another sausage gag, you can never have too many), you are trying to give humour lessons to the rest of ze verld. You don't sink ve are doing it right? Ja?
Doesn't zis seem a bit - you know - arrogant? :lol:

Pretty funny, I must admit.

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egbert wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:54 am So, basically, as ein deutschlander (geddit - another sausage gag, you can never have too many), you are trying to give humour lessons to the rest of ze verld. You don't sink ve are doing it right? Ja?
Doesn't zis seem a bit - you know - arrogant? :lol:
As opposed to lecturing non-English speakers on humour - that's never arrogant or patronising at all. Still, top marks on ze hilarious zpellingz for ze people with ze funny akzentz different from uz!

Anyway, how about that Cubase 12, eh?!!
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noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:32 am As opposed to lecturing non-English speakers on humour - that's never arrogant or patronising at all. Still, top marks on ze hilarious zpellingz for ze people with ze funny akzentz different from uz!
Quite ze opposite. I just don't think you can usefully critique a nation's humour from the outside. The bit on puns and competence veered into this zone. Probably ill-advised I would suggest.

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