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rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:29 pm

Chrisk-K wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 pm
rod_zero wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:31 am The JX08 is zenology based, no acb, that's why the high voice count
Given the architecture of the JX series, I'm not sure if the ACB would improve the sound quality.

I much prefer the ACB versions of the Juno and Jupiter to their Zenology counterparts. However, the Zenology JX model sounds as good as, if not better than, the ACB JX.

what in the architecture would make it better under zenology than under acb?

Brian.McClelland · Post by **Brian.McClelland** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:09 am

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Delve into the gloomier sonics of the 1980s with this throwback collection of patches by revered musician and sound designer INHALT. Both maudlin and romantic, these gated percussion sounds, evolving pads, and glimmering keys utilize the D-50’s famously diverse capabilities to create dark synth-pop landscapes.

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hurricaneaudiolab · Post by **hurricaneaudiolab** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am

I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:20 pm

hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

That sounds like they didn't do a great job recreating the presets rather then an issue with Zen.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:57 pm

cyberheater wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:20 pm
hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

That sounds like they didn't do a great job recreating the presets rather then an issue with Zen.

To me it seems more a filter problem. The filter simply doesn't sound the same.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:12 pm

Chrisk-K wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 pm
rod_zero wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:31 am The JX08 is zenology based, no acb, that's why the high voice count
Given the architecture of the JX series, I'm not sure if the ACB would improve the sound quality.

I much prefer the ACB versions of the Juno and Jupiter to their Zenology counterparts. However, the Zenology JX model sounds as good as, if not better than, the ACB JX.

Well the acb Jx3P and the abm Jx8P are 2 different synths both in the real world and as a vst so they can't be compared.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:01 pm

fmr wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:57 pm
cyberheater wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:20 pm
hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

That sounds like they didn't do a great job recreating the presets rather then an issue with Zen.
To me it seems more a filter problem. The filter simply doesn't sound the same.

I hope someone does a deep dive between the hardware and software versions soon. It would be good to hear.

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:22 am

Anyone, still using Windows 7, may be interested to know the recent JD-800 VST plugin appears to work ok with Windows 7. It seems the "Windows 10 only" limitation is being introduced by the Roland Cloud Manager, not the software itself.

You'll need to locate the relevant "PluginSetup.msi" setup file (probably via a Windows 10 install). It's presently 26MB, and you'll know you have the correct one by right-clicking, selecting file properties, and then checking under the "Details" tab.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:28 pm

I have made over 30 presets so far for the JD-800.
If anyone wants to check those out I can upload them.

EDIT: I just noticed when making a preset with ranges in it that they are labelled incorrectly: (Tone B twice). I reported it to Roland.

Layer names.jpg

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:09 am

Here are the presets I made for the Roland Cloud JD-800 plugin.

Presets for JD-800.zip

Gadget Fiend · Post by **Gadget Fiend** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:39 am

cyberheater wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:01 pm I hope someone does a deep dive between the hardware and software versions soon. It would be good to hear.

Do you mean a comparison between the original JX-8P and the Zencore VST/AU plugin or between the JX-08 Boutique and the original JX-8P?

The Boutique JX-08 and the Zencore JX-8P plugin should sound identical. They're both based on the same synth model.

Captain · Post by **Captain** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:39 am

Examigan wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:28 pm EDIT: I just noticed when making a preset with ranges in it that they are labelled incorrectly: (Tone B twice). I reported it to Roland.

That's already the 2nd typo in the JD-800 plugin ("Renane" button in the patch window being the other). Of course they are not showstoppers, and I'm sure they will be fixed, and I think Roland Cloud has already received more than enough bashing... but still, come on now, how can you manage to include two typos in a synth plugin that doesn't really contain _that_ much text?

Gadget Fiend · Post by **Gadget Fiend** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:50 am

hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

Wow, the real JX-8P sounds a lot better than the Zencore JX-8P. I'm sticking with my MKS-70.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:16 pm

I want that JX-08 - will probably sell my actual JX-8P now!

FotoxBr · Post by **FotoxBr** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:28 pm

I think I will be happy with everything Zencore from now on. I only wish Roland to be more clear about what models they are using. This mystery attitude does not do them any good.

Gadget Fiend wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:50 am
hurricaneaudiolab wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:36 am I wanted the JX-08, but then read here that it's based on the Zenology version, so I thought I'd compare the real JX-8P to the Zen version, and now I'm ok with not getting the JX-08:

Wow, the real JX-8P sounds WAY better than the Zencore JX-8P. I'm sticking with my MKS-70.