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Do you program all of your sounds from scratch?
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- KVRAF
- 8020 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I more often than not do both. I start with a preset, fiddle about with it to get more of what I want, decide it's not really what I want so go really deep into it and change it beyond all recognition, then scrap the whole wasted time and start the bloody thing from scratch, which is what I should have done at the outset. ![D'oh! :dog:](./images/smilies/doh.gif)
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- Banned
- 410 posts since 5 Feb, 2012
Duplicate post.
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Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI
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- Banned
- 410 posts since 5 Feb, 2012
I use mostly presets with plugin instruments. But I program all of my own presets on my hardware synths because the hands on control makes the patch creation process so much more enjoyable.
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI
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- KVRAF
- 1792 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
No
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Lol no, that's pointless if you're trying to make actual music. Just find something close and make some tweaks.
But also you should definitely be programming stuff from scratch sometimes, during specific sound design sessions where your not trying to make a song, but just learn a synth better or get better at sound design while making your own patches. This way you have sound design chops so when you need to tweak a preset while in the throes of inspiration while making an actual song, you can do so quickly.
But also you should definitely be programming stuff from scratch sometimes, during specific sound design sessions where your not trying to make a song, but just learn a synth better or get better at sound design while making your own patches. This way you have sound design chops so when you need to tweak a preset while in the throes of inspiration while making an actual song, you can do so quickly.
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 22 May, 2020
Nope. Granted, I don't really ever use synths much anyway, but when I do...
I had a teacher who used to say that every time you're screwing around with learning curves or messing with buttons and dials — then you aren't making music.
The other thing about synths is that any sort of sound I'm imagining, a preset surely exists which is already at least CLOSE to it. So there's no point in not just going for that and then back to music making.
I always found that elitism among Electronic artists amusing — like, where they insist everyone uses their own sounds and not presets so that you don't "sound like anyone else", but then they take their original sounds, and write the exact same four-on-the-floor, offbeat bass song like literally millions of others.
I don't think the sound design is the cause of the originality drought.![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
I had a teacher who used to say that every time you're screwing around with learning curves or messing with buttons and dials — then you aren't making music.
The other thing about synths is that any sort of sound I'm imagining, a preset surely exists which is already at least CLOSE to it. So there's no point in not just going for that and then back to music making.
I always found that elitism among Electronic artists amusing — like, where they insist everyone uses their own sounds and not presets so that you don't "sound like anyone else", but then they take their original sounds, and write the exact same four-on-the-floor, offbeat bass song like literally millions of others.
I don't think the sound design is the cause of the originality drought.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
I used to make everything from scratch, now I have enough of my own presets to rely upon, and also I think I'm more or less confident with synthesis so I can always change existing presets into whatever direction I want.
Making your own sounds for your own tracks is not an elitism, it's a useful excercice, even if you just recreate sounds which are common for your genre and don't innovate much, you learn how synths actually work
Making your own sounds for your own tracks is not an elitism, it's a useful excercice, even if you just recreate sounds which are common for your genre and don't innovate much, you learn how synths actually work
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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- KVRAF
- 4253 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I make my synth sounds on the spot in pretty much all my productions. When it comes to sample based instruments, I will often use pre-made stuff and then just process and tweak from there.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
- KVRAF
- 7485 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
It's funny, I see more people arguing "making your own sounds is a waste of time" than I have ever seen people "insisting that everyone uses their own sounds."
"Presets or not?" is not even a factor in my enjoyment of listening to music. It's a meaningless, irrelevant question.
I don't design my own sounds because elitism. I do it because I enjoy it and it's an important part of my process.
"Presets or not?" is not even a factor in my enjoyment of listening to music. It's a meaningless, irrelevant question.
I don't design my own sounds because elitism. I do it because I enjoy it and it's an important part of my process.
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- KVRAF
- 4253 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I dunno. I was kind of broken hearted when I heard one of my favorite groups release a song that was for the most part just an unmodified an1x preset playing over a stylus loop. Aside from that one instance I don't really care how most of the music I listen to is made though.foosnark wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:40 pm It's funny, I see more people arguing "making your own sounds is a waste of time" than I have ever seen people "insisting that everyone uses their own sounds."
"Presets or not?" is not even a factor in my enjoyment of listening to music. It's a meaningless, irrelevant question.
I don't design my own sounds because elitism. I do it because I enjoy it and it's an important part of my process.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
Its been really liberating using a ROMpler of late. Never used to think id find a use for one, but having the stuff there ready has sped up my workflow immensely
Combine it with more synths that i've purchased lately, I spend more time actually getting tracks done than creating all the sounds from scratch
Apart from percussion, I hate doing that.
Combine it with more synths that i've purchased lately, I spend more time actually getting tracks done than creating all the sounds from scratch
Apart from percussion, I hate doing that.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- addled muppet weed
- 106904 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
you owe me £19.99 for the irony meter you just exploded.Chr!s wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:59 am
I always found that elitism among Electronic artists amusing — like, where they insist everyone uses their own sounds and not presets so that you don't "sound like anyone else", but then they take their original sounds, and write the exact same four-on-the-floor, offbeat bass song like literally millions of others.
I don't think the sound design is the cause of the originality drought.![]()
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 22 May, 2020
I love Romplers, especially the classics from the 90s.LeVzi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 pm Its been really liberating using a ROMpler of late. Never used to think id find a use for one, but having the stuff there ready has sped up my workflow immensely
Combine it with more synths that i've purchased lately, I spend more time actually getting tracks done than creating all the sounds from scratch
Apart from percussion, I hate doing that.
So much cheesy goodness in those things.