KVR Audio

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:43 pm

nonstatic wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:05 pm I did, a few days ago in a subreddit where they directly posted the sale to begin with, amongst complaints from others about not fixing the plugin. All ignored, but that's fine.

Posting in a subreddir is not "informing them". But, whatever. Yeesh.

BuddySpencer · Post by **BuddySpencer** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:43 pm

nonstatic wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:40 pm Back on sale for same as intro price, though their site has a BF sale banner saying 75% off the entire store. 75% off would be $10 less than price it shows. I'm not on Logic so the crashing is less of a concern for me, but who can trust a company that screws up the math on their own discounts?

It’s not just logic, for me it crashes in every DAW on my Mac (with FL Studio being the most stable).
I was quite impressed when first trying (and buying) vybz, but this companies behavior (which consists of ignoring its customers and not fixing any bugs) totally discourages me from buying any of their products, no matter the discount

nonstatic · Post by **nonstatic** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:35 am

plexuss wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:43 pm
nonstatic wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:05 pm I did, a few days ago in a subreddit where they directly posted the sale to begin with, amongst complaints from others about not fixing the plugin. All ignored, but that's fine.
Posting in a subreddir is not "informing them". But, whatever. Yeesh.

If you start a thread on reddit, the original poster gets email notifications on every comment. It informs them just fine. Can we stop this now? Sheesh.

Agreed · Post by **Agreed** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:15 pm

I have also contacted the dev directly via Reddit, Facebook, and more but been ignored. I am done trying, personally, the plugin is simply not stable for me and I can't get that addressed.

Many, many developers out there, many plugins every week. I will choose accordingly in future among those who have shown greater concern for customers and who followup communications with actions, personally, and to each their own beyond that.

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:22 pm

You are well advised to stay away from Vybz and Thenatan in general. I've noticed some trends in dev business models and Thenatan appears to use the "one off" business model - they make a plugin, make sure it generally works, release and that's it. I think with Vybz they happened on a tool that has wider appeal than their other tools which generally live "under the radar". But, despite the wider appeal of Vybz, they maintain their "one off" business model. So, with that, I would expect no further development of Vybz. Build. Release. Let die.

I have Vybz (and Underwater) and they work and I am happy. But eventually they wont work and I don't expect them to be updated between now and then. Unfortunately this is just one of the many business models devs have and sometimes its not apparent until you buy thei product. Be happy it didn't cost more, like some other "one off" devs.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:55 am

I have the same problem with two of their Serum skins. The most beautiful skins I ever saw, but not updated to show animations for modulated parameters. Sent them both an email and a PM here. The PM was read but never answered.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:44 am

plexuss wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:22 pm... the "one off" business model

Never heard that phrase before and I didn't know what it meant, 'til now.

''Happy'' to be a "one off'' customer at this point.

nonstatic · Post by **nonstatic** » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:00 pm

They just reduced prices again to $9.99 per product for BF. Screw it, at this price I bought it anyway and don't have enough time to demo for stability before the sale will end. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

psynical · Post by **psynical** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:05 pm

>Hey Guys, Sorry for Late Replies, We are so Busy Here Yeah There is A New Version Coming Early 2022 And Bugs All Fixed Now

https://www.reddit.com/r/AudioProductio ... s_999_for/

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:17 am

Yeah, Natan is very busy posting jokes and funny YT videos on Fb.

Dirtgrain · Post by **Dirtgrain** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:14 pm

"You just tell them what Old Jack Burton always says, 'The check is in the mail.'"

DJErmac · Post by **DJErmac** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:09 pm

True, the plugin has a couple of weird behaviours sometimes (when it wants to, some buttons don’t seem to produce the same result all the times), but it’s still my favourite lo-fi plugin ever. I use it all the time. It’s far from being unusable on my machine.
For simple crushing or things like this, it’s perfectly stable for me.
It’s simply a joking plugin. We all like to have fun sometimes don’t we ?

m-ac · Post by **m-ac** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:18 pm

So another throw away comment about you fixing the bugs now (so release it then?), how you're ever so busy (doing what exactly, thinking up new sales?), and a vague release date of 2022...yeah, nice one. I don't know why you're giving yourself those cute little emotes on your post

You took my money and run with it, so I think I'm within my rights at this point to call you a complete tool.

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plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:39 pm

One-off plugin guys. It's a crap shoot. GAS leads to regrest at times. suck it up buttercup.

Agreed · Post by **Agreed** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:57 pm

It isn't against the rules to gripe at the dev in the thread where promises were made when they haven't been followed through on, I wouldn't worry too much if it makes an unrelated party salty, say what you need to say. Maybe eventually it'll get attention, but looking at the dev's products and behaviors here, certainly have my doubts. As mentioned earlier I think it might be wise to keep this in mind going forward, of course.

Thenatan releases "Vybz" Lofi Multi-Effect Plugin with 63% off Intro Offer discount