Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

[wvshpr]

Noiseash plugins are Silicon native (and currently on sale, no shitty iLok):
https://noiseash.com

Vocal Finalizer (v1.3.9)
Rule Tec Heritage Pro (v1.8.2)
Rule Tec EQ1A (v1.8.2)
Rule Tec EQ5M (v1.8.2)
Need 31102 Console EQ (v1.7.9)
Palmary Collection (v1.3.9)
Action Delay (v1.3.9)
Action Phaser (v1.3.9)
Action Filter (v1.3.9)
Devastator (v1.3.9)
FrozenVerb (v1.3.9)
SpeakerSim (v1.3.9)
Stereo Finalizer (v1.3.9)
Heater (v1.3.9)
Action Tremolo (v1.3.5)

[cadiz]

XLN Audio Addictive Keys is now Universal!

[parkerboi]

XLN Audio RC20 is native too.
https://imgur.com/a/KjM9hr6
But still no VST3 versions...

[bysbox1]

2 More New ones. Well One is old buy is still good news:

Synapse Audio Dune 3.5 Now has a VST3 Native for Apple Silicon.

Sound Theory Gulfoss 1.11.0 now has an Apple Silicon Build.

Which makes me wonder: If Sound Theory could make their plugin work (which uses iLok) why can't Sound Toys?

[J0nnyMac78]

The same reason many others haven’t - all the devs await different PACE components. And don’t ignore the fact that Gullfoss is one product, Soundtoys has many products…

[Tronam]

It looks like Reason's M1 support has been pushed back to next May. At this rate Steinberg may actually beat them, which seems hard to believe.

[machinesworking]

The same reason many others haven’t - all the devs await different PACE components. And don’t ignore the fact that Gullfoss is one product, Soundtoys has many products…

iLok is Pace. IMO considering SoundToys mostly ancient looking GUI's they're probably in a similar boat as NI, ignoring Apple GUI warnings for years and now confronted with a major rewrite for Apple Silicon. I would bet Arturia and iZotope beat Soundtoys and NI to Apple Silicon, considering the more modern GUIs of the former.

[machinesworking]

It looks like Reason's M1 support has been pushed back to next May. At this rate Steinberg may actually beat them, which seems hard to believe.

I bought the 11 upgrade with the free update to 12 for the GUI changes and the M1 support. It's too bad, a native Reason Rack would pretty much cover the transition barring Kontakt sample libraries for me anyway.

[J0nnyMac78]

The same reason many others haven’t - all the devs await different PACE components. And don’t ignore the fact that Gullfoss is one product, Soundtoys has many products…

iLok is Pace. IMO considering SoundToys mostly ancient looking GUI's they're probably in a similar boat as NI, ignoring Apple GUI warnings for years and now confronted with a major rewrite for Apple Silicon. I would bet Arturia and iZotope beat Soundtoys and NI to Apple Silicon, considering the more modern GUIs of the former.

I know ilok is PACE. PACE supplies different components to different devs, indeed, they offer more than one protection product.
Soundtoys haven’t said they need a major rewrite, they’ve said they’re waiting for certain components that they’re not allowed to specify because of an NDA.

The gui has nothing to do with it. It hasn’t caused Eventide any problems.

[johansan]

XferRecords Cthulhu 1.44 beta is now also ARM M1-native (available through the official forum):
https://xferrecords.com/forums/cthulhu/ ... ableton-11

[Ploki]

The same reason many others haven’t - all the devs await different PACE components. And don’t ignore the fact that Gullfoss is one product, Soundtoys has many products…

iLok is Pace. IMO considering SoundToys mostly ancient looking GUI's they're probably in a similar boat as NI, ignoring Apple GUI warnings for years and now confronted with a major rewrite for Apple Silicon. I would bet Arturia and iZotope beat Soundtoys and NI to Apple Silicon, considering the more modern GUIs of the former.

I know ilok is PACE. PACE supplies different components to different devs, indeed, they offer more than one protection product.
Soundtoys haven’t said they need a major rewrite, they’ve said they’re waiting for certain components that they’re not allowed to specify because of an NDA.

The gui has nothing to do with it. It hasn’t caused Eventide any problems.

PACE has Eden and Fusion (and maybe something else) - Eden is already M1 native while Fusion is not.

And iirc GUI frameworks is holding NI back.
So frankly, it might be either.

[tbs]

The only Tone Empire plug that seems to be native is Black Q. ("MAC - M1 Version")
As far as I can tell the rest of their plugs are just labeled "M1 Supported" and feature a misleading M1-chip icon.
Loc-Ness (1.2) definitely isn't silicon.

[TS-12]

I’m very happy ex-windows 10 user, with MacOS Monterey. I got about 200 plugins and virtual instruments installed on new M1 Max MacBook 2021, every single one of those plugins works on Monterey ( even though few of them are officially supported )
all except Slate VMR, VMS and VSX.

I transferred 2 Cubase projects from Windows 10 i7-8700k PC, and on Monterey the CPU usage is alittle lower it everything runs smoothly with Cubase 10.5, all plugins show up (expect 32bit Virtual Guitarist 2 ), switches buffers ok, all without issues.
Logic on the other hand is pretty bad, many plugins don’t show up in Logic (Rosetta mode and native), crashes, and Logic freezes when switching buffer sizes.

[Ploki]

I’m very happy ex-windows 10 user, with MacOS Monterey. I got about 200 plugins and virtual instruments installed on new M1 Max MacBook 2021, every single one of those plugins works on Monterey ( even though few of them are officially supported )
all except Slate VMR, VMS and VSX.

I transferred 2 Cubase projects from Windows 10 i7-8700k PC, and on Monterey the CPU usage is alittle lower it everything runs smoothly with Cubase 10.5, all plugins show up (expect 32bit Virtual Guitarist 2 ), switches buffers ok, all without issues.
Logic on the other hand is pretty bad, many plugins don’t show up in Logic (Rosetta mode and native), crashes, and Logic freezes when switching buffer sizes.

how come you went for Max instead of Pro?
Someone on FB mentioned the freezes with buffer sizes, i'm on 10.7.1 / 12.0.1 monterey and i can't replicate that bug for the life of me, not on RME not Built-in Audio.
Also all plugins kind of show up and work (also around 200-300)

[TS-12]

I’m very happy ex-windows 10 user, with MacOS Monterey. I got about 200 plugins and virtual instruments installed on new M1 Max MacBook 2021, every single one of those plugins works on Monterey ( even though few of them are officially supported )
all except Slate VMR, VMS and VSX.

I transferred 2 Cubase projects from Windows 10 i7-8700k PC, and on Monterey the CPU usage is alittle lower it everything runs smoothly with Cubase 10.5, all plugins show up (expect 32bit Virtual Guitarist 2 ), switches buffers ok, all without issues.
Logic on the other hand is pretty bad, many plugins don’t show up in Logic (Rosetta mode and native), crashes, and Logic freezes when switching buffer sizes.

how come you went for Max instead of Pro?
Someone on FB mentioned the freezes with buffer sizes, i'm on 10.7.1 / 12.0.1 monterey and i can't replicate that bug for the life of me, not on RME not Built-in Audio.
Also all plugins kind of show up and work (also around 200-300)

I went for Max because memory speed is faster than in Pro.
Max = 400GB/s memory bandwidth,
Pro = 200GB/s memory bandwidth

Hmm might be some plug-in affecting the freeze when changing buffers