Cubase 11 Pro or Studio One 5 Pro

[THE INTRANCER]

Cubase is an ugly cluster..... of a DAW, you would find composing in Studio One less of a headache and just as capable as Cubase for your needs.

[xbitz]

somehow

also works better with S1 https://www.presonus.com/products/fader ... ZfJMcA5q9k witchcraft

[beeellecee]

I have both Studio One 5 and Cubase 11. They both have their strengths. They are both worth trying. I have imported and exported between the two. Never had much of an issue with either crashing on me. I don't like the S1 browser which I find intrusive rather than helpful. I prefer the font in the Cubase UI!

[maldomusica]

I used Cubase for 2 years but I mooved to Studio One. I think S1 is much more practical and faster when you need to do some things.

Using S1 with my Faderport, my life changes a lot jajaj

[maldomusica]

somehow

also works better with S1 https://www.presonus.com/products/fader ... ZfJMcA5q9k witchcraft

I really love Faderport!

[kritikon]

Being curious and not wanting to have a question without having an answer for my use, I will go to the pro Studio One version and as an interesting price, I will take the Artist 11 version, this way if Cubase meets my needs and criteria , I will switch to Cubase 12 Pro.

There will most certainly be a preferential price when Cubase 12 Pro is released.

This way, I will know which daw to evolve towards.

I don't use scoring, but from memory Artist's scoring is much more limited than the pro version. The rest of the audio and especially midi functionality is very similar although it has a few less channels etc. Not sure you'll get much of an idea about Cubase pro from using Artist if you are going to be using the scoring. Artist is very much aimed at audio/midi music making via more modern methods than for scoring. But yeah, Artist will give you a good idea of the audio/midi/processing side of Cubase.

[Trancer]

Many thanks for your answers.

I don't plan on using notation, so the Artist version should meet my needs at first.

It is true that Studio One has a less cluttered screen than Cubase.

What is a shame with Cubase, the screen is overloaded and does not help to understand it.

What Cubase lacks is a dedicated control surface, like a faderport for Studio One.

What also bothers me with Cubase, some people revert to old versions, because tools have been removed which facilitates the work, stability, not great anyway.

When you upgrade to a higher version, it's for the better, not for turning back the clock.

It is true that each has its advantages and disadvantages.

But I no longer think of going to Studio One, moreover the faderport is a tool which at some point will be essential for me and has a perfect integration with Studio One which will be essential for my use.

[Gadget Fiend]

System Configuration and the Software Environment on your machine is also a component in stability and reliability. A lot of issues people have with DAWs and other professional software has little to do with the software and more to do with the environment in which they're attempting to run it.

This is horse shit. Even Propellerheads recommends not messing with the default Windows settings (power management, registry settings, etc.). It's all voodoo nonsense so that PC "consultants" can come to your house and pretend to tweak a few "settings" and charge you a couple hundred bucks for the privilege.

In my experience, Cubase is MUCH more stable on the Mac simply because the Mac platform is inherently more stable.

[jancivil]

is why I stayed with Mac, way back at OSX.2. I did all the recommended tweaks (XP), which only appeared to hurt.
on OSX at that time was a daemon, Process Wizard, simple as can be. and there were of course far fewer things running in the background (the business networking bits). Most of that will tend to have changed over the years (everything was underspecc'd for a peasant like me back then), but I don't have time for all that and aesthetically it's just not it for me.

I personally at this point think this 'Cubase is messy' is accepting groupthink as gospel instead of having a genuine experience. Everything can be accessed with a key command instantly and hid easily til the next instance. I see only what I need to see. I didn't have to research this, it's all obvious from the Key Commands dialog. For me, Studio One had too much visible as a default, same complaint exactly. I think I demoed it before Cubase did that docking bit, which I don't want. I suppose I would have to learn it to formulate a strong opinion .
Everybody's different, tho, YMMV rules ok.

[v1o]

Cubase doesn't crash for me unless there is a rogue plugin.

[dellboy]

I had this same question a few years a go, so I bought both with a view to ditching one of them once I had made up my mind.

I still have both, so that strategy does not work.

In fact I updated to Cubase Pro 12 and am still on the fence at to whether to update Studio One to 5 during the BF sale. Of the two, Studio One seems more likely to go "poof", in fact it did that just this morning. And I am having strange midi problems using the Nektar P6 integration with Studio One, but Cubase is fine.

Try flipping a coin.

[Trancer]

Thanks for your feedback.

Having the two seems a bit far-fetched, but the two seem complementary apparently.

I will be updating Studio One to the pro version.

I'll see if Cubase 12 pro is really worth it, Steinberg really has an interest in coming up with something concrete and innovating and moving forward and hearing complaints from current and future customers.

[thebutler]

I had this same question a few years a go, so I bought both with a view to ditching one of them once I had made up my mind.

I still have both, so that strategy does not work.

Me three... been running both for some time now; I too always thought one would get the elbow sooner or later, but it never happened... And I'm actually glad I can keep both going. I will religiously update Cubase no matter what and enjoy updating S1, as and when. If you can afford it, I think its a healthy thing.

For the OP's question:- I seriously like them both; but if I had to say, over the last year its been about 70/30 to working in Cubase. Highly stable, 130+ tracks, full length live concert projects (2+ hours duration), plenty(!) of plugins...

S1 tends to get opened for quick CD compilation/burning projects; smaller MIDI based projects and is on my laptop too for mobility - editing/remote recording. And (more rare these days) actual S1 projects sent over for drum editing/remixing or production. It too is stable and nice to use.

[chk071]

I will be updating Studio One to the pro version.

Good call, to be honest. Every time I take a look over the rim of my tea cup, and demo Cubase AI a bit, I come to the point where I appreciate what I have with Studio One. It's more streamlined, feels more modern, with less dead wood, it's faster, it doesn't come with a shit load of stuff, unless you want it to, the window management of the application, and also of the plugins is better, the inspector isn't loaded full of stuff I don't need, etc.

I hope it stays that way, but, just like Cubase, they seem to follow a policy of selling features to the customer every 2 years, which obviously and necessarily leads to bloat at some point.

I skipped version 5 though, because, there was nothing in there which I felt like was worth upgrading. Will see what v6 will bring, otherwise I'll stick to v4 again.

[xbitz]

...Many thanks for your answers.

I don't plan on using notation, so the Artist version should meet my needs at first.

It is true that Studio One has a less cluttered screen than Cubase.

What is a shame with Cubase, the screen is overloaded and does not help to understand it...

afaik S1 hasn't got a workspaces feature

from 1:30 (can be global or project-based) and it saves the plugin states too (positions open/closed state) so super handy, google also can see only a feature request https://answers.presonus.com/70445/equi ... workspaces (I know about that the track/mixer states are can be stored: scenes, but don't know about the app states in S1)

and Cubase can have multiple marker tracks/arranger can be split etc. which also can help to able to focus only a given part of a project (markers are directly reachable from mixer etc. ) voilà by Steinberg