Best de-esser / plugin for 't' 'ch' 'sh' sounds?

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sqigls
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Post Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:30 pm


ramseysounds
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:59 am

Do it manually. Zoom into the wav file, find the culprit and bingo, done
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

jackson881
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:20 am

olepro wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:01 pm
Melodyne
https://youtu.be/XoNngoqhUMg?t=205
Thank you! I was unaware that Melodyne could do this. Sounds promising.

jackson881
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:25 am

ramseysounds wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:59 am
Do it manually. Zoom into the wav file, find the culprit and bingo, done
This is my usual approach. Sometimes I find that just lowering the volume doesn't fix the harshness, and reducing the volume of the offender too much begins to sound unnatural. Do you ever eq the offending part after you've isolated it?

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Lesha
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1502 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia

Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:31 am

Did you try the Hofa one?
It's easy if you know how

jackson881
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:42 am

Lesha wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:31 am
Did you try the Hofa one?
Not yet. On my demo list. Is this your go to?

I've never used anything by Hofa, so I'm interested to try.

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Lesha
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1502 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia

Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:48 am

I still have not bought it unfortunately, but while I demoed it was great on whistling types of sibilances.
It's easy if you know how

ramseysounds
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:06 pm

jackson881 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:25 am
ramseysounds wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:59 am
Do it manually. Zoom into the wav file, find the culprit and bingo, done
This is my usual approach. Sometimes I find that just lowering the volume doesn't fix the harshness, and reducing the volume of the offender too much begins to sound unnatural. Do you ever eq the offending part after you've isolated it?
Not separately but the vocal track is always eq'd. I normally use Waves de-esser in combination also on the main vocal buss.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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neverbeeninariot
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:27 pm

jackson881 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:03 am
garfield78 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:44 am
sibalance v4 from https://www.toneboosters.com/
Was next on my list. Thanks!
The UI has been simplified a lot since v3, but I'm finding the de-essing works as well if not better - could do with lower freqs at the bottom of the range, but it's dead simple to use with great results, IMO.

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neverbeeninariot
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Post Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:28 pm

jackson881 wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:25 am
ramseysounds wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:59 am
Do it manually. Zoom into the wav file, find the culprit and bingo, done
This is my usual approach. Sometimes I find that just lowering the volume doesn't fix the harshness, and reducing the volume of the offender too much begins to sound unnatural. Do you ever eq the offending part after you've isolated it?
It's a good option if a) there aren't too many to deal with, and b) your daw supports spectral edits (go Reaper!!)

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Lesha
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1502 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia

Post Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:44 am

Soothe is fine too if you tweak it a little.
It's easy if you know how

rollasoc
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670 posts since 13 Jun, 2003 from Shrewsbury, UK

Post Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:00 am

Melodyne is my current choice, anything to make me listen to my voice for the least amount of time... :)

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Lesha
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1502 posts since 18 Feb, 2005 from Serbia

Post Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:35 am

TDR Nova does a great job, too.
It's easy if you know how

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kingozrecords
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Post Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:16 am

Izotope allow 2, not a complete solution though. Still requires reducing punch.
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lwj
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Post Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:12 pm

Weiss De-esser is the most natural sounding I’ve heard. Kind of sucks it doesn’t allow you to pull the frequency all the way down though, de-essers somehow work great on bass as well.

Spiff would be an interesting option too, I reckon. But I’ve only played with the demo a couple of times, came away impressed though.

Every other de-esser I tried sucks to me and I always end up removing it and just using fabfilter pro-mb or the Weiss if I can get away with it (latency/cpu)

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