Overview genre characteristics (Techno, Dub, House, ….)

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captain lysergicacid
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Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:05 pm

Hi,

I was wondering, do you know any overview chart / handbook / etc. of the main characteristics of the diverse music genres?

E.g. (I just improvised these)

Techno: 120 – 150 bpm, dominant kick drum and bass
Dub: Reggea chords, keys are usually on the 2, “dub sirene”
House: 100 – 130 bpm, characteristic “house stabs”
Downtempo: 70 – 110 bpm
Psytrance: 120 – 190 bpm

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BertKoor
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Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:30 pm

You might find Ishkur's Guide to EDM interesting:
https://music.ishkur.com

There might be other similar sites with EDM taxonomy.
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DJ Warmonger
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:01 am

BertKoor wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:30 pm
You might find Ishkur's Guide to EDM interesting:
https://music.ishkur.com
Please no. This guide was outdated 15 years ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Let it die.

There is no even future house (which name was coined in 2013 as a joke) or psychill.
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BertKoor
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:53 am

DJ Warmonger wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:01 am
This guide was outdated 15 years ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Let it die.
The author doesn't agree with you.
wikipedia wrote:Version 3.0 of the guide was instead released on August 20, 2019.
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recursive one
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 am

Techno: 120 – 150 bpm, dominant kick drum and bass because the producers are not aware of that music may contain something else. Then somebody introduces the characteristic "house stabs" to them and they start making house at 100 – 130 bpm;

Psytrance: 120 – 190 bpm, 95% of the production time is spent on making that amazing kick and bass and therefore 95% of the track consists of the kick and the bass;

Downtempo: 70 – 110 bpm, made by guys who wanted to produce psytrance but can't pull off that amazing psytrance kick and bass;

Dub: Reggea chords, keys are usually on the 2, “dub sirene”, made by guys who wanted to produce downtempo but are too stoned to pull off anything but reggea chords and dub sirene;

Other genres: some irrelevant stuff nobody cares about.
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SHall1000
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 am

What’s a “sirene”?

recursive one
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:48 am

SHall1000 wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 am
What’s a “sirene”?
A sound which is used in reggea

Some say it reminds them on reggae siren.
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SHall1000
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Post Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 am

Ahhhh …a siren. :dog:

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captain lysergicacid
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Post Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:44 am

Thanks a lot for the replies!

For anyone interested, 2 useful links I also found in the mean time:

https://www.freebernmusic.com/genres-explained
https://www.londonsoundacademy.com/blog ... sic-genres

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captain lysergicacid
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Post Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:45 am

recursive one wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 am
Techno: 120 – 150 bpm, dominant kick drum and bass because the producers are not aware of that music may contain something else. Then somebody introduces the characteristic "house stabs" to them and they start making house at 100 – 130 bpm;

Psytrance: 120 – 190 bpm, 95% of the production time is spent on making that amazing kick and bass and therefore 95% of the track consists of the kick and the bass;

Downtempo: 70 – 110 bpm, made by guys who wanted to produce psytrance but can't pull off that amazing psytrance kick and bass;

Dub: Reggea chords, keys are usually on the 2, “dub sirene”, made by guys who wanted to produce downtempo but are too stoned to pull off anything but reggea chords and dub sirene;

Other genres: some irrelevant stuff nobody cares about.
Thanks for that i pissed myself laughing hahaha

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Post Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:03 pm

recursive one wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 am

Psytrance: 120 – 190 bpm, 50% of the production time is spent on making that amazing kick and bass and therefore 50% of the track consists of the kick and the bass; the other 50% on "stupid filter tricks"
ftfy j/k :help:

recursive one
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Post Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:32 pm

Winstontaneous wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:03 pm
recursive one wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:24 am

Psytrance: 120 – 190 bpm, 50% of the production time is spent on making that amazing kick and bass and therefore 50% of the track consists of the kick and the bass; the other 50% on "stupid filter tricks"
ftfy j/k :help:
There are subgenres which rely on stupid filter tricks, subgenres relying on moronic FM noises and subgenres relying on speech sampels talking about enlightment, expanding consciousness, divine moments of truth and other effects of toxic substances.

We are going too deep here, the OP asked about broad genre classification.
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DJ Warmonger
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Post Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:01 am

subgenres relying on speech sampels talking about enlightment, expanding consciousness, divine moments of truth and other effects of toxic substances.
Half of tracks contain recordings of Alan Watts, you will know when you hear him.

But yeah, psytrance has a number of distinct styles which vary in BPM. I can tell apart psychill (downtempo vibes), progressive psytrance (130-136), full-on (138-144), goa, forest psytrance (150+).
Also psytech got popular in recent years, but that originated from tech-trance, not psy. Thus tempo is classically 138-140 BPM.
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