Would You Give Up Music If All DAWs Went Subscription ?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
will you give up posting if kvr goes subscription only?
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
Of course, if you decide not to pay for the likes of Netflix, you still have free options.antic604 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:39 am No, just like I haven't stopped watching films, series and documentaries when Netflix became available. Quite the opposite.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Even worse than KVR subscription, lets just hope that KVR do not charge for each post because I know someone who will be in big trouble
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
They are available right now as well and I chose to rather pay for my DAWs and their upgrades.jacqueslacouth wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:14 pmOf course, if you decide not to pay for the likes of Netflix, you still have free options.antic604 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 11:39 am No, just like I haven't stopped watching films, series and documentaries when Netflix became available. Quite the opposite.
I'm not sure I see the connection to this particular topic.
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- KVRAF
- 5070 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
I am even not really sure if this would be really a bad thing...
When it comes to subscription for me it really just matters how it is setup.
For me companies like Slate, Reason Studios, Presonus and many others do it the right way: they offer so much value that you would have to pay at least 10 years anyway the same amount to buy this stuff... this is for me a good ratio...
A subscription like offered now from Native Instruments is nothing than laughable... I take a few of my least sold bits with perhaps one little highlight in and want to make people rent this stuff which is hardly worth the rate of 2 years when buying similars...
If they would offer Komplete Ultimate for let´s say €19,90 a month... this would be fair as most stuff in there is already more an oldtimer than something groundbreaking new... but 10,-€ for this current bullsh*t subscription is nothing than customer screw-up
So my decision depends only on the cost-benefit ratio... while of course there is a high risk for professionals with a tight schedule...
If Internet breaks for a few hours this might cause already a big damage...
So in such subscriptions there should be a certain safety zone that i.e. the software is still accessable unrestricted for 2 or 3 days if no internet connection can be established...
When it comes to subscription for me it really just matters how it is setup.
For me companies like Slate, Reason Studios, Presonus and many others do it the right way: they offer so much value that you would have to pay at least 10 years anyway the same amount to buy this stuff... this is for me a good ratio...
A subscription like offered now from Native Instruments is nothing than laughable... I take a few of my least sold bits with perhaps one little highlight in and want to make people rent this stuff which is hardly worth the rate of 2 years when buying similars...
If they would offer Komplete Ultimate for let´s say €19,90 a month... this would be fair as most stuff in there is already more an oldtimer than something groundbreaking new... but 10,-€ for this current bullsh*t subscription is nothing than customer screw-up
So my decision depends only on the cost-benefit ratio... while of course there is a high risk for professionals with a tight schedule...
If Internet breaks for a few hours this might cause already a big damage...
So in such subscriptions there should be a certain safety zone that i.e. the software is still accessable unrestricted for 2 or 3 days if no internet connection can be established...
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
ill just plug my guitar in to my amp, or my synths in to a mixer plus amp.
or record to my digital mixer.
or the tape.
its easy when you know how
or record to my digital mixer.
or the tape.
its easy when you know how
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- KVRAF
- 44004 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
In the interest of saving the planet, you will not be permitted to use any more electricity, or any type of fuel. This will be for your own good. Remember, we're all in this together.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
acoustic guitar and my shruti box, plus various things to hit.
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- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Would you give up music if Aliens invade the planet?
It's an equally unlikely scenario as all DAWs going subscription.
Someone needs a hobby or to learn how to find the Off Topic forum.
viewforum.php?f=4
It's an equally unlikely scenario as all DAWs going subscription.
Someone needs a hobby or to learn how to find the Off Topic forum.
viewforum.php?f=4
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I make music all the time without my DAW, a DAW is not the focal point of my passion...making music is, I am a musician and was one long before any of us had computers in our homes. I'm at least two, maybe three versions behind on my DAW as well 
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
technically it is about DAWs though and ftr, it is music related so if gets moved it would be to everything else, not off topicTeksonik wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:25 pm Would you give up music if Aliens invade the planet?
It's an equally unlikely scenario as all DAWs going subscription.
Someone needs a hobby or to learn how to find the Off Topic forum.
viewforum.php?f=4
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 1766 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
I wouldn’t stop making music but I wouldn’t subscribe either… I think I’d keep running the computers and the daw I already own for as long as possible and in the meantime I’d probably write my own simple sequencer… but there are already some opensource daws, so I’d probably contribute to a project if I feel something is missing, instead of building something from scratch…
I already collected enough hardware synths, so I can probably strip down my setup and go mostly otb, with a simple sequencer to drive everything and provide simple recording (I could do the job with the features of a daw from 20 years ago, if needed).
Being able to code and to build some simple electronics does help a lot… it would be just a matter of time, but I wouldn’t surrender easily to a subscription-only scenario.
I already collected enough hardware synths, so I can probably strip down my setup and go mostly otb, with a simple sequencer to drive everything and provide simple recording (I could do the job with the features of a daw from 20 years ago, if needed).
Being able to code and to build some simple electronics does help a lot… it would be just a matter of time, but I wouldn’t surrender easily to a subscription-only scenario.