Is Serum worth cashing out for, when you get Vital for free?

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Seriously, Serum is a beast. Best advice I can give you is to do some searches on YT for "[Your favorite genre] Serum Banks" just to see what the vst is capable of. Then compare that to Vital's. I'm telling you it's in my top 3, merely for the rich, powerful, and clear sound.

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ckoe wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm Yes the price for Serum is high(it should cost around 100EUR), I only bought it with rent to own on splice. Vital and also Phase Plant can't give me the sound I get out of the box on Serum in 5 seconds, cause the Filters and FX in Serum sounds soo good and punchy etc. I love to bought one right synth than ten synths with medium filters. Serum is like Fabfilters Q3 in my opinion, all the alternatives are ok but if you start Farbfilter the heart will go on, same with Serum.

But hey for a freeware Synth is Vital a no brainer and my first choice if I had not Serum.
Yep agree that one 'right' synth can do for your mix more than 20 'wrong',if you need specific sound this exact synth produce,but Serum and Vital despite advanced options miss mojo some old school synths like V-Station,Sylenth1,so on have,adding their unique vibe and character.
Some free synths like synth1 have it too.
Would buy Serum if see it around 60-70 euro :)
Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers :)

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I must have both, nice sounding analog style like Cherry Audio Mercury4 and a clean digital contrast.

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Well, first of all, I don't use Vital or Serum, but I noticed there's a boatload of instructive vids at YT about Serum.
PS there are some weird people hanging around here, but consider this: one must be at least a little weird to go into audio production. Trust me, usually it helps 🤗

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Serum > Vital even if it is free.

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:49 am
ckoe wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:18 pm Yes the price for Serum is high(it should cost around 100EUR), I only bought it with rent to own on splice. Vital and also Phase Plant can't give me the sound I get out of the box on Serum in 5 seconds, cause the Filters and FX in Serum sounds soo good and punchy etc. I love to bought one right synth than ten synths with medium filters. Serum is like Fabfilters Q3 in my opinion, all the alternatives are ok but if you start Farbfilter the heart will go on, same with Serum.

But hey for a freeware Synth is Vital a no brainer and my first choice if I had not Serum.
Yep agree that one 'right' synth can do for your mix more than 20 'wrong',if you need specific sound this exact synth produce,but Serum and Vital despite advanced options miss mojo some old school synths like V-Station,Sylenth1,so on have,adding their unique vibe and character.
Some free synths like synth1 have it too.
Would buy Serum if see it around 60-70 euro :)
Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers :)
Sylenth1 somehow lost its mojo at least in my ears... all in the name of "cleaner this and cleaner that". And Lennard will not send me an older installer. -_-

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AugusteBeagle wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:27 pm Either way, probably a good idea to get it on Splice through rent to own
I agree.

It doesn't seem expensive when bought this way.

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They are quite similar. Get some unique synth of type you don't have any yet. Tracktion sells pretty unique synths - Hyperion, WaveRazor, F'em, Biotek 2.

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Spring Goose wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:28 pm
AugusteBeagle wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:27 pm Either way, probably a good idea to get it on Splice through rent to own
I agree.

It doesn't seem expensive when bought this way.
Yepp, and you can pay the rest when ever you want, or can stop rent to own and continue few month later, it does not matter.
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If you create wavetables for yourself, the toolset on offer in Serum is the best out there IMHO. Vital has some intersting stuff but for a comprehensive set of wavetable editing, managing and exporting options, Serum is worth the asking price for those tools alone.

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Well, Vital is great. Serum, I heard is very good too. Pigments is the best, you decide :hihi:

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Pigments for 99 with 3 free soundpacks at the moment and 3.5 was a great update. If I could only have 1 WT synths it would be Pigments.
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kobal wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:42 pm if you enjoy using serum yes it worth it.. simple as that . i m not sure but upgrade may be free if a v2 is made one day
v2 will be a free upgrade for existing v1 users
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SLiC wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:55 pm Pigments for 99 with 3 free soundpacks at the moment and 3.5 was a great update. If I could only have 1 WT synths it would be Pigments.
I agree with you as in it being the best wavetable synth, but it doesn't have a wavetable editor, unless they included one in 3.5 which I haven't had a look at yet, even Vital has a wavetable editor

The wavetable editor in Serum is the most advanced and most user friendly I have seen so far, a tad expensive to pay $200 for just the wavetable editor though, don't know why anyone hasn't come up with an alternative. Node isn't even as advanced as the Vital wavetable editor

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:49 am Don't need it in my mix,but could use it somewhere,not big fan of all this cold mechanical soulless sound lately every kid do,isn't exactly impressive neither from sound design point nor as usability.
Try to make a song only with wow sounds,it doesn't sound as music at all.
Just saying...
Cheers :)
Here not much "wow" sounds and a very good music production individual.
He mostly uses Serum and Diva and lately Vital as well.

The whole track with Serum.


Track mostly with Vital


Got some good preset banks from him for Serum and Vital.
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