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jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:31 am

Sorry, that should be the World Economic Forum, not the UN. The UN couldn’t do it, but the WEF is put on by the world largest multinational corporations, and they most certainly could.

YOU will own nothing. They will own everything.

Azbest · Post by **Azbest** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:12 am

jamcat wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:31 am Sorry, that should be the World Economic Forum, not the UN. The UN couldn’t do it, but the WEF is put on by the world largest multinational corporations, and they most certainly could.

YOU will own nothing. They will own everything.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:08 am

Let's not forget about BlackRock (aka the company that owns the world) and Vanguard. Shocking stuff.

Daimonicon · Post by **Daimonicon** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:11 am

Aloysius wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:08 am Let's not forget about BlackRock (aka the company that owns the world) and Vanguard. Shocking stuff.

And the third, State Street.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:52 pm

I've only made one track this entire year...I think I've given up on music.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:15 pm

the existence of the question speaks of a whole thing of people that didn't do music before it was availed on a computer with it's little helpers

I practically gave up music for a dozen years in favor of pain relieved. it isn't a happy way to be...
I don't have a real choice in it, I have to in order to live. If you really have a choice and no need like that, just stop wasting everybody's time. The hypothesis is useless and a bit unwell. If you can't save yourself with music, the evil corporations already own the world so why resist. Music can be so much more than what some take it to be

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:19 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:52 pm I've only made one track this entire year...I think I've given up on music.

I make dozens, hundreds of loops in the course of a year. Some of them become songs, some don't... I'm doomed.

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:22 pm

Nah! I’d just stick to the last non-subscriped version of Reason that makes sense. Currently, this is Reason 11 to me, and I have enough stuff onboard for a couple of lifetimes. Rest is just GAS and shopping fun, anyway.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:32 pm

again I am just gonna say, I dont even remember what version of samp I am on...a few years ago I got a deal on an upgrade (not sure what number) and that has never been downloaded (I know this because for that I do typically go online and in the 5 years I have been in this house my studio has yet to have any internet). I'd be the same as you tribe, nothing will stop me from being a musician, well except for me.

Also please remember, I can and have built my own instruments, as long as I have a song in my heart I will have a way to express it...likely only to myself...which is fine by me

midi_transmission · Post by **midi_transmission** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:36 pm

I would stop buying audio software and stick with an old free sequencer or the last version that is without a subscription. Maybe buy more hardware.

All this gear and plugin GAS is a different hobby. I would stop spending so much, but not stop making music.

Daimonicon · Post by **Daimonicon** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:53 pm

midi_transmission wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:36 pm I would stop buying audio software and stick with an old free sequencer or the last version that is without a subscription. Maybe buy more hardware.

That's what I would do too.

Daimonicon · Post by **Daimonicon** » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:54 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:52 pm I've only made one track this entire year...I think I've given up on music.

Make two tracks 2022. You will end up 100% more than last year.

syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:44 pm

Meh. There's always hardware. 4/8/16-tracks, standalone sequencers, MPCs, Maschine+, Electribes, ad nauseum. Just remember to ask Santa for lots of patch cables.

ChiTown24 · Post by **ChiTown24** » Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:10 pm

I find it interesting that they often market subscription models as being beneficial for hobbyists, amateurs etc, whereas it seems clear to me that it's only the professional segment where a subscription model can be made to make sense.

As a hobbyist, or even a small-time independent professional, what happens to all your projects when you stop or can no longer continue paying all the subscription fees you owe each month ? Your projects don't load correctly ? plugins de-active throughout your project ? you'll inevitably renew your subscription just to access your projects. and the more projects you make with subscription based software, the more leverage you are giving them to keep you subscribing longer than you'd like.

ya, no thanks.

If it's got to be a subscription model, the Bitwig Studio subscription model is about as far as I could stretch - since at the end of your subscription term you are left with what amounts to a perpetual license for the main version of the software when your subscription expired.

vata44 · Post by **vata44** » Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:30 pm

I would probably actually just switch to whoever wasn't subscription based.

Would You Give Up Music If All DAWs Went Subscription ?