RapidComposer v4 beta feedback and discussion (locked)

[BluGenes]

I misunderstood the question.. my apologies.. I was thinking drag and drop stuff.

I'll try it a few times to see what I get and post later..

[sj1]

In this case I'm using RC standalone, and Scaler 2.5.0 VST3 hosted from Bitwig.

But, as you say, once inside RC, thing should be consistent (good or bad), unless there is something about the specific path of Scaler into RC which is causing a corruption (unlikely, but possible I suppose).

Of course anyone with Scaler could do as I do exactly, but otherwise the more generic test is to simply import some somewhat complex MIDI chords to a phrase and then try the conversion to Master Track chords.

[BluGenes]

Dunno, I get consistent results.. all good..

[musicdevelopments]

This is because RC does not have maj7(#5), only maj7#5, and 9(sus4), only 9sus4 in its chord definitions. One solution is to add these short names so that they are recognized.
I'll upload a beta version shortly with an improvement, so that chord names with parenthesis are properly recognized (parenthesis removed from the Scaler chord name).

Thanks,
Attila

RC 4.3 (Windows 10) - I'm noticing that when drag chords into the RC Master Track from Scaler I'm often not getting the full complex chord that was in Scaler, but instead am getting a simplification of it (e.g. to a triad).

Is there a setting I need to make, or something else I need to understand about this process in order to get Scaler chords into RC exactly as per the original?


RC - Simplifying Chords from Scaler.jpg

[sj1]

Ah, very interesting. Thanks Attila!

Do you have Scaler to work with there?

If there is assistance I can provide as a Scaler user, please let me know, here or directly.

It's very powerful to have RC and Scaler working together!

[musicdevelopments]

Thanks for the video, ValliSoftware

I did the same in v4.3.0 and I could not reproduce either the drag-and-drop bug or the crash when text editing. I think these are fixed. If you find a crash, please send me the crash report file, which is very useful.

Thanks!
Attila

try the release version, it's newer than the beta

The only reason I was doing beta is because that supported the M1 but you're corrent, the release now supports that including the installer so I'll be using that now.
Thanks.

[musicdevelopments]

Do you have Scaler to work with there?

No, I never used Scaler...

[sj1]

No, I never used Scaler...

OK. ( It is a great program, BTW. )

I doubt if there is a master list of Scaler's internal chord names, because they are probably constructed dynamically by algorithm.

However, when you are working with a given set of chords, there is an 'Export Chord Names to Clipboard' function.

Below are some examples, which hopefully are useful to show multiple (presumably not all) kinds of syntax to be encountered:

E maj, F# min, G# min, A maj, B maj, C# min, D# dim
E maj, E maj / G#, A maj9, B maj add 9, C maj add 9, B min add 9, C maj7(no3), A min9
F maj7, E min7, E min / G, F maj / A, G maj / B, A min(no5), D min7, C maj(no5), G maj
Bb sus2(b5) / C, F 7, F min7(b5), G min7, E 7, A 7, F maj add 13 / A, G 7, C sus4
G maj9, G maj7, F# min b9 / G, F# maj b9 / G, C maj9 / G, C maj7 / G, D 7(#5) #9 / F#, G maj7
F maj, F maj / A, F maj / C, G min / D, D min, Bb maj7, G 7(no3), Bb 5, F maj / C, C maj
F maj add 9, C sus2, A min7, G maj, F maj add 9, C sus2, D min7, F maj
C 9 13, F 9 13, Bb 9 13, D# 9 13, G# 9 13, C min11(b9) / C#, G 9(#5), C 9 13
G# min9, G 9 13, F# min9, F 9 13, E min9, Eb 9 13, D min9, G 7(#5) #9, C min9

[sj1]

Hi,

Here is a chord that started in Scaler (labeled as 'Bb sus2(b5) / C' ), came thru Reaper, went out to a MIDI file, and then was imported into RC (ignoring the marker labels, which incidentally would have come in as 'Bb' if not ignored).

RC - Not a C triad 01.jpg

RC analyzed this chord as a simple C major (i.e. triad, right?).

However, with the presence of the Bb note, that analysis is questionable, IMO.

Along with that specific (which probably needs correction), this leads me to the question of:

Can the notes in a Phrase be "back-analyzed" to replace the existing chord(s) in the Master Track?

If so, how do we do that? If not, I think that capability would be a good feature to add.

[sj1]

After working with it a bit, I'm inclined to think that the setting 'Misc - MIDI Import - Import midi markers as chords' would be better as a switch on the MIDI Import page.

As well, once there, if toggling it also toggled the 'Chords preview (first 10 chords):' display then we would have quick insight into which path we wanted to follow for populating the Master Track chords upon performing the MIDI import.

[Vimda]

!!! HELP please !!!
Hi,
I upgraded Rapidcomposer 3 to 4 yesterday.
After installation, standalone is ok but in Reaper, I got a message saying that "api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll" was missing.
I installed this .DLL, no more message, but Rapidcomposer VST2 and 3 are not visible in Reaper plugins list !
An idea please ??
(Windows 7)

[musicdevelopments]

Hello!

I have never seen such error message
However I was able to reproduce this error on Windows 7.
I hope to have a fix soon.

EDIT: fixed in v4.4b1 (being built now).
The reason for this issue was a recent workaround inserted in the plug-in when 150% DPI scaling was used in Windows with the RC plug-in hosted in Bitwig or Ableton. The workaround involved requesting the monitor scaling factor which DLL did not exist on Windows 7. Workaround removed.

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

Hi,

Here is a chord that started in Scaler (labeled as 'Bb sus2(b5) / C' ), came thru Reaper, went out to a MIDI file, and then was imported into RC (ignoring the marker labels, which incidentally would have come in as 'Bb' if not ignored).

Today I added sus2b5, sus24, 7sus24 and similar chords to the library in v4.4b1. So I think the chord should be recognized with or without marker labels.

Along with that specific (which probably needs correction), this leads me to the question of:

Can the notes in a Phrase be "back-analyzed" to replace the existing chord(s) in the Master Track?

If so, how do we do that? If not, I think that capability would be a good feature to add.

Yes, of course. Select a phrase (it should contain 'absolute' notes), then click on "Convert To Relative Form", with the "Replace master track chords" option. You can convert the phrase to absolute notes if needed.

Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

RapidComposer v4.4b1 is available!

Improvements:

• New rhythm generator: Modern Irregular Rhythm
• Better chord recognition for Scaler chords
• sus2b5 and sus24, 7sus24 chords added to the chords library
• [macOS] New setting: Emulate right click for Ctrl-click or Cmd-click (Settings / Miscellaneous)
• [Windows] Removed workaround when using Windows HiDPI scaling in plug-ins, and checking monitor scale factor (made the plug-ins unusable under Windows 7)

[Vimda]

Hello!

I have never seen such error message
However I was able to reproduce this error on Windows 7.
I hope to have a fix soon.

EDIT: fixed in v4.4b1 (being built now).
The reason for this issue was a recent workaround inserted in the plug-in when 150% DPI scaling was used in Windows with the RC plug-in hosted in Bitwig or Ableton. The workaround involved requesting the monitor scaling factor which DLL did not exist on Windows 7. Workaround removed.

Thanks,
Attila

All is ok with this installer !
Thanks a lot for your incredible reactivity Attila !
David