Softube Modular

[WasteLand]

great to see that Softube Modular is alive, it still a great, excellent modular.

do have Parallels and Model 72, for the modules... adds great possibilites.

what i hope, but perhaps i am the only one, some more Buchla 200 modules, if you look at the channel of todd barton, softube links to it, i believe, explaining the 296e (wow what a thing), the other modules he uses, will add more buchla style, of course, it is the buchla guy.

it is a pity that they didn't implemented the 'hidden features' of Clouds, that is not only the TB-303 in combi with Rings, but still even with Rings, modulating the many parameters of Clouds, and using Rings, or perhaps, driving Rings in another way, you can still get great sounds.

more mutable instruments, well, not per se... one or two? but buchla! you have the free buchla emulation for Reaktor, i have.... but still; in Softube Modular, strangely, and i can of course combine them.... (mux/demux), i still go to Softube Modular, and also other reasons.

next to Voltage Modular and Reaktor, Softube Modular gives me sounds, that are my style, it was my first soft modular, and still discover new things.

Softube Modular as it now is, is pretty capable for experimental stuff. it has the right amount of modules, and great modules, you don't need a lot, to create sonic explorations.

[WolfKay]

Softube Modular as it now is, is pretty capable for experimental stuff. it has the right amount of modules, and great modules, you don't need a lot, to create sonic explorations.

Yes, best modular soft synth ATM.

what i hope, but perhaps i am the only one, some more Buchla 200 modules

Sure, that would be fantastic!
Some creative, experimental sampling modules would be cool as well.
A collaboration with Instruō would certainly be nice too, though they may be bound by an exclusive contract with VCV.

[Rastkovic]

has anyone here compared the real hardware doefler system to the softube virtual versions ?

Yes.

I would like to know if they sound even better ?

No way!! Hahaha....

Well, a hardware modular system is not a Minimoog that you can model. A Minimoog has a certain sound range, a modular system not.

It's all analog. If you put three VCAs in series, you create overtones and noises, that cannot achieved with a digital emulation (in theory yes!). The basic sounds are very close to the original hardware, but when you start experimenting, it's different.

Anyway, software also has advantages. Many analog filters and VCAs are very noisy, fortunately Softube Modular sounds very clean. Also the oscillators are stable, no warming up, no re-tuning, and they are not only at 2-3 octaves in-tune playable.

[zerocrossing]

Here’s what I think is missing from the current offerings.

Sampler. Something really cool with the ability to modulate loop points and independently modulate playback speed and pitch. Maybe even add some codec emulation in there to get some digital crunch.

Wavetable. Something with a lot of cool built in wavetables and the ability to import more. Add a bunch of blend modes as well. For bonus, add an LFO mode.

Filters. Definitely is missing some variety in filters. SEM, Polyvoks, ARP, 303, etc.

An MSEG with drawable shapes. Loopable with audio rate capabilities.

[JUSTINO]

thanks for your answer

i have been looking at the a100 system on ebay - i did see one go for 1k recently which is a big drop - not sure how often that happens.

I have a few old analogs which just sit there doing nothing these days.

I have a SEM paperweight which I could get rid of and get a super doefler a 100 which beats that crappy sem anyday of the week.

I do like being able to just bounce parts in a computer with any machine - it is a diff thing to always keep recording

Im still considering it as I really like my softube thing and dont want another paperweight thing

has anyone here compared the real hardware doefler system to the softube virtual versions ?

Yes.

I would like to know if they sound even better ?

No way!! Hahaha....

Well, a hardware modular system is not a Minimoog that you can model. A Minimoog has a certain sound range, a modular system not.

It's all analog. If you put three VCAs in series, you create overtones and noises, that cannot achieved with a digital emulation (in theory yes!). The basic sounds are very close to the original hardware, but when you start experimenting, it's different.

Anyway, software also has advantages. Many analog filters and VCAs are very noisy, fortunately Softube Modular sounds very clean. Also the oscillators are stable, no warming up, no re-tuning, and they are not only at 2-3 octaves in-tune playable.

[Rastkovic]

I have a SEM paperweight which I could get rid of and get a super doefler a 100 which beats that crappy sem anyday of the week.

Eurorack is for a good reason also called Eurocrack.

Lots of people spend a lot of time buying and selling modules, reading about modules and of course adding all their new modules into their system. Rearranging the modules is also very popular. Be careful, it's like falling into the void.

[perpetual3]

I have a SEM paperweight which I could get rid of and get a super doefler a 100 which beats that crappy sem anyday of the week.

Eurorack is for a good reason also called Eurocrack.

Lots of people spend a lot of time buying and selling modules, reading about modules and of course adding all their new modules into their system. Rearranging the modules is also very popular. Be careful, it's like falling into the void.

It’s like avoiding over eating with a small plate. In this case, you need a small case.

[Rastkovic]

what i hope, but perhaps i am the only one, some more Buchla 200 modules, if you look at the channel of todd barton, softube links to it, i believe, explaining the 296e (wow what a thing), the other modules he uses, will add more buchla style, of course, it is the buchla guy.

I was into this kind of noise/experimental stuff for a couple of years and I am amazed that I still like it. His Hordijk and Easel patches are very nice.

Worth to mention:

do have Parallels and Model 72, for the modules... adds great possibilites.

Mhm, why do think Parallels would be a great addition?

[Rastkovic]

I have a SEM paperweight which I could get rid of and get a super doefler a 100 which beats that crappy sem anyday of the week.

Eurorack is for a good reason also called Eurocrack.

Lots of people spend a lot of time buying and selling modules, reading about modules and of course adding all their new modules into their system. Rearranging the modules is also very popular. Be careful, it's like falling into the void.

It’s like avoiding over eating with a small plate. In this case, you need a small case.

Yes, but you can also buy a second small case.

You need A LOT of self discipline when you start with Eurorack. Because there is is always the next module tempting to expand your possibilities.


Add: I am only describing my own personal experience. It's absolutely fine if someone enjoys using Eurorack.

[dave dove]

one of the good things about softube modular is the lack of modules

[Introspective]

You need A LOT of self discipline when you start with Eurorack. Because there is is always the next module tempting to expand your possibilities.

Have you watched Jorb's recent video on modular? I REALLY like his idea, and I feel kind of stupid for not thinking of it myself: use modular to build a better monosynth. Period.

Great concept.

[JUSTINO]

Your probably right , without them side by side i dont know which one sounds better. I do love softube and it sounds amazing , i love being able to bounce rather than rec in , not that hard but it is more fidly , and would it sound better , im not sure.

You are right about the obsessive side of owning things , shiny little things that are pretty with fancy writing - they are all so designer'y looking now.

I rem looking at them long ago and thinking oh only a £100 there and £200 there , then when i added it all up it became a lot. That said there were some doefler a100 for 1k on ebay , so thats a big drop in price as its normally 2k or something - i really do have an awful lot of synths that never get turned on - i turned on a yamaha 70s string machine last week , then after about an hour i was like ' what is that burning smell ' - it was the machine - a wretched burning smell was in the room - not sure what it was but it was from inside it - i have not turned that machine on for about 3 years - its been sat there !!! i do need to get rid of it and still thinking of buying gear as i dont want to waste the money on other stuff - once you have gear then it sort of stays in that limited space - one thing of buying old gear it never goes down in price it always stays steady or sometimes can go up.

I have a SEM paperweight which I could get rid of and get a super doefler a 100 which beats that crappy sem anyday of the week.

Eurorack is for a good reason also called Eurocrack.

Lots of people spend a lot of time buying and selling modules, reading about modules and of course adding all their new modules into their system. Rearranging the modules is also very popular. Be careful, it's like falling into the void.

[cthonophonic]

Mhm, why do think Parallels would be a great addition?

Though I dislike the rompler-ish concept and the sound of Parallels as a synth, I think the mod sources are super fun in Modular. There's a euclidean sequencer, a handy little step sequencer and an ADSR with modulatable attack and decay/release. The oscillator and filters (the res in particular) are also far more useful in Modular than in the original synth, I would say. The oscillator can produce some timbres that are hard to produce any other way within Softube's ecosystem.

[cthonophonic]

Oh, hey, also just noticed that the Fix Phaser and Flanger/Doubler have been updated for Modular. Visually, they're some of the ugliest looking modules I've ever seen, but I might be inclined to check out those plugins now. If they ever turn the OTO Biscuit into a module, I'm there for sure.

[WasteLand]

I was into this kind of noise/experimental stuff for a couple of years and I am amazed that I still like it. His Hordijk and Easel patches are very nice.

Worth to mention:

do you mean this: o now i get another overview, and not a video in the overview, it is a link to todd barton, indeed. great. i am now into not really noise, but experimental stuff. i always was.. but have become more and more experimental

do have Parallels and Model 72, for the modules... adds great possibilites.

Mhm, why do think Parallels would be a great addition?
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@crhonophonic, i would say almost the same:

Mhm, why do think Parallels would be a great addition?

Though I dislike the rompler-ish concept and the sound of Parallels as a synth, I think the mod sources are super fun in Modular. There's a euclidean sequencer, a handy little step sequencer and an ADSR with modulatable attack and decay/release. The oscillator and filters (the res in particular) are also far more useful in Modular than in the original synth, I would say. The oscillator can produce some timbres that are hard to produce any other way within Softube's ecosystem.

i only bought Parallels (it sometimes quite cheap..) for modular, as a standalone instrument it has something, but it lacks something, maybe MPE can rescue it (it is somewhere on a list at Softube..).
but indeed the Mod modules.

when answering your question, i thought i make a patch, to answer it better....
this time i also used the oscillators and the filter, and to my suprise, and some extra non-parallel modules, the patch must still be extended, it could produce interesting results. but my memory resources were drained... so i had to investigate why that happened, first time, it seems to me, i did it in Reaper, an existing project, with a special oscilloscope plugin, that can do more than scoping... i think it my memory...
not important... patches, i save, in steps, when i have something. so the patch was saved, not the last settings, but i could remember them..

well back to Softube Modular, indeed, it has not many modules, but it still suprises me, that even, even when you use Clouds (but mangled by modulation, and typically in my case feedback modulation; from the modules that are already running, and run through Clouds,tapping CV...), you don't get a typical Clouds sound, on the contrary.

Softube Modular can do MPE. i don't use that often for Softube Modular. while i use MPE almost every day (when i am in my studio).

but @chronophonic, i would say the same, except the oscillators, but now i discovered them.

sometimes is answering a question a return to, why not try more Parallel modules... more CV control, would be great, but is enough.

you don't a lot of modules, i repeat, to achieve great results. the 2 buchla modules, in combi with others, give a lot, already a lot. but a few 200 series modules added, well i wouldn't mind...