All that proves is that FLS users need way more help than users of other DAWs.MrJubbly wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:06 pmYup! Insecurity can be a beeyotch! ... But they probably have a valid reason to be...
YouTube Searches for each DAW:.
YouTube Search - FL Studio, Ableton Live, Pro Tools, REAPER, Logic Pro.png
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^ ...and FL Studio 21 is not even out yet, Lord help these jealous fools when it is released!
Why is FL Studio so popular?
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- KVRAF
- 2473 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
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- KVRAF
- 2627 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Thank god I've made hip-hop, rap and electronic. My existence is thus not in doubt.donkey tugger wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:49 pm I suggest we keep our heads down. You and me don't exist;
I actually have a WIP R&B track that I regularly dump in the FL Studio discord for lulz too
Also, didn't you cover that Smiths track...?
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
You know I was there at the start of tarnce.sjm wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:23 pmThank god I've made hip-hop, rap and electronic. My existence is thus not in doubt.donkey tugger wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:49 pm I suggest we keep our heads down. You and me don't exist;
I actually have a WIP R&B track that I regularly dump in the FL Studio discord for lulz too
Also, didn't you cover that Smiths track...?
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- KVRAF
- 2627 posts since 17 Apr, 2004
Surprised that tarnce wasn't its own slice tbh.
Voted KVR's resident drunk Robert Smith impersonator (thanks Frantz!)
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2myYesRBRgQB3LkZzEYdt5 | https://soundcloud.com/steevm/
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- KVRist
- 402 posts since 4 Jun, 2010
I like DAnce music in little spurts.
Orbital are cool.
Only listen to 70's prog,jazz bebop,jazz fusion of the 70s and classical these days.
It stops the depression.
I am thick as mud but this music entersmy soul more than others.
Over metal ,that's for angry people.
Orbital are cool.
Only listen to 70's prog,jazz bebop,jazz fusion of the 70s and classical these days.
It stops the depression.
I am thick as mud but this music entersmy soul more than others.
Over metal ,that's for angry people.
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- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I'm a chillout, minimal, kinda guy myself... but I also like metal from time to time to just vent. Pantera, Slayer, stuff like that... Good metal needs to be listened to at least the maximum your stereo can handle, though. It's therapeutic
The last part starting at about 4:10 could run on a loop forever if it was up to me
This one is kind of a over-stylized and marketed song of the same type:
Still like it, though
edit: period for distancing my love for metal and pop music.
I also like sh* like that . That's Pop Music? I dunno? Guy looks like a freak show
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MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
after dunno how many years https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-bes ... pc-and-mac so There are markings.
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRian
- 867 posts since 30 May, 2019
And why would you assume I cared whether you did, lol!
I'm just here posting straight facts, that no one has been able to or even can dispute. They're not for the benefit of some random ignoramus, like whoever you happen to be.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 5 Jul, 2019
Other people have it right: the piano roll's ergonomics are simply incredible. I mean you can practically build out symphonies using a mouse and do it very quickly in FL (many youtube channels have shown this). If you have the ear but maybe don't have the dexterity or pedigree of playing an instrument, its click-in notes workflow is phenomenal. If you do have the skills on an instrument, it makes editing those notes very fluid and easy.
Writing/editing motifs and listening back to them is trivial in FL - everything from the strum function making it easy to write flams, velocity randomization, legato a note to the next, cutting notes, left-click place note, right-click delete, etc. Click > playback > edit > playback > etc.
Another workflow quality I honestly like as well is the relationship between the channel rack/step sequencer, piano roll and mixer and how they are laid out. The speed at which you can drag in an instrument and put notes down is highly efficient. Due to it's fluid piano roll it really does make music making very portable and compact due to how well it works with a mousepad.
Search on youtube for "Nick Mira makes a hit beat from scratch in 10 minutes". That video pretty much sums everything up regarding how efficient and fluid writing songs with the program is.
Writing/editing motifs and listening back to them is trivial in FL - everything from the strum function making it easy to write flams, velocity randomization, legato a note to the next, cutting notes, left-click place note, right-click delete, etc. Click > playback > edit > playback > etc.
Another workflow quality I honestly like as well is the relationship between the channel rack/step sequencer, piano roll and mixer and how they are laid out. The speed at which you can drag in an instrument and put notes down is highly efficient. Due to it's fluid piano roll it really does make music making very portable and compact due to how well it works with a mousepad.
Search on youtube for "Nick Mira makes a hit beat from scratch in 10 minutes". That video pretty much sums everything up regarding how efficient and fluid writing songs with the program is.
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- KVRian
- 867 posts since 30 May, 2019
Well, to be fair. I'm pretty new to these forums and am only currently subscribed to two topics. So, I'm mainly getting notified about this topic here, so the vast majority of my responses are in the one thread.sQeetz wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:53 pm I used to be an FL advocate a couple of years back. Knew ALL workarounds and whatnot. Used to defend it against all the suckers who thought Reason was superior. But MrJubbly is on a whole new level. Appreciate that. Interesting to say the least.
Also, you can't deny the facts I've been providing. I mean, without direct access to each DAWs private business accounts, what is the next best thing to go on? Online social media presense and popularity of searches and online content uploaded and watched for each respective DAW, right? Well, that's what I provided, which wasn't that hard to find.
It's about a thousand times more reliable than personal anecdotal accounts and subjective biased supposition, which was all anyone else was providing before I arrived here.
I mean what else are the FL Studio haters gonna conjure up next? Conspiracy theories that Image-Line have paid off Google to make them look better and more popular than their rivals? Lol!
It's all good 'banter' though, as I've been told previously.
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- KVRian
- 867 posts since 30 May, 2019
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- KVRian
- 1052 posts since 2 Dec, 2010 from Belgium, EU.
About market share.
Perceptions can be deceiving. The circles you move in defines how visible that is. If its professional recording studios, you would wonder what all the FL Studio fuss was about and may never meet someone using it.
If you talk to people over 45 years of age. They will remember Fruity Loops and wonder if anyone is still using it. They will probably be using Cubase, Logic or perhaps Live.
The market for home producers is, by far, the largest and fastest growing. It is orders of magnitude bigger than any professional market. So, the bottom of that producer-pyramid has expanded so massively in the last 15 years it is what has propelled FL Studio to the top of the charts. The great unwashed as Bulwer-Lytton would put it.
There is some data you can verify, FL Studio Mobile is usually the #1 highest grossing music DAW App on Android and iOS in any given month. Has been this way for about 5 years. And yet, would you know or hear about that in the mainstream press and forums? No.
https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/goo ... -grossing/
https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/app ... sing/ipad/
The point is. The most commercially successful applications can be impossible to spot, by simply popping your head out of the rabbit hole and looking around.
Perceptions can be deceiving. The circles you move in defines how visible that is. If its professional recording studios, you would wonder what all the FL Studio fuss was about and may never meet someone using it.
If you talk to people over 45 years of age. They will remember Fruity Loops and wonder if anyone is still using it. They will probably be using Cubase, Logic or perhaps Live.
The market for home producers is, by far, the largest and fastest growing. It is orders of magnitude bigger than any professional market. So, the bottom of that producer-pyramid has expanded so massively in the last 15 years it is what has propelled FL Studio to the top of the charts. The great unwashed as Bulwer-Lytton would put it.
There is some data you can verify, FL Studio Mobile is usually the #1 highest grossing music DAW App on Android and iOS in any given month. Has been this way for about 5 years. And yet, would you know or hear about that in the mainstream press and forums? No.
https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/goo ... -grossing/
https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/app ... sing/ipad/
The point is. The most commercially successful applications can be impossible to spot, by simply popping your head out of the rabbit hole and looking around.
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