So it doesn't distract from the phenomenal tutorial that follows...fairlyclose wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:35 amMy God that is truly awfulxbitz wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:30 am what about a nice song?
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-1
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-2
Studio One, where do I get started? (Or, I hate Mixcraft, please for the love of god save me from this washed up DAW)
- KVRAF
- 2473 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better? 
- KVRAF
- 12213 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
As someone who has had to learn many DAWs on both PCs and Macs, here are some of my random thoughts…
Groove3 vids (or other Get Started in S1 tutorials) + manual for reference + learn by doing + (most importantly) patience is a winning formula IME.
A few tips:
- Keep a notebook nearby and write down the steps for your most used actions until it becomes muscle memory
- it might help to start with a list of things that you know you’ll need to know before you can become proficient
- Learn (or assign) keyboard shortcuts for everything you regularly do or views/menus you want to open/close and write them down on your notebook.
- tutorials are great, but they can teach you some things you’ll never use or miss things you may want to know
- yup, manuals are overwhelming and not really meant to be read like a book, so use it as a reference (although Google can sometimes be quicker and/or have better context, suggestions for workarounds or better approaches, etc.)
- learn by doing. Start making an actual song and, when you hit a road block, google it and you’ll usually find a solution (then, see the first bullet). Take it from start to export of the final mixdown.
- patience is everything. Learning a new DAW takes time because there’s a lot to commit to memory/muscle memory, so you need that repetition
Groove3 vids (or other Get Started in S1 tutorials) + manual for reference + learn by doing + (most importantly) patience is a winning formula IME.
A few tips:
- Keep a notebook nearby and write down the steps for your most used actions until it becomes muscle memory
- it might help to start with a list of things that you know you’ll need to know before you can become proficient
- Learn (or assign) keyboard shortcuts for everything you regularly do or views/menus you want to open/close and write them down on your notebook.
- tutorials are great, but they can teach you some things you’ll never use or miss things you may want to know
- yup, manuals are overwhelming and not really meant to be read like a book, so use it as a reference (although Google can sometimes be quicker and/or have better context, suggestions for workarounds or better approaches, etc.)
- learn by doing. Start making an actual song and, when you hit a road block, google it and you’ll usually find a solution (then, see the first bullet). Take it from start to export of the final mixdown.
- patience is everything. Learning a new DAW takes time because there’s a lot to commit to memory/muscle memory, so you need that repetition
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- KVRian
- 1418 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
I wanted to move on to something that is more stable, and it seemed like Studio One was the answer to the stability thing

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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
Ive had no stability issues with S1 running on an old i5. Most popular software finds someone who will have stability issuesmladi wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:13 pmI wanted to move on to something that is more stable, and it seemed like Studio One was the answer to the stability thing![]()
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- KVRAF
- 35677 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I think people will make a generality out of it far too often, if the software is unstable on their specific system. Any DAW software was reasonably stable here. Maybe except for Cakewalk Sonar, and some really unknown stuff, like Darkwave Studio, LMMS, and a few others.
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
Reaper and S1 stable here, Bitwig less so but a long way from being a problemchk071 wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:04 am I think people will make a generality out of it far too often, if the software is unstable on their specific system. Any DAW software was reasonably stable here. Maybe except for Cakewalk Sonar, and some really unknown stuff, like Darkwave Studio, LMMS, and a few others.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2295 posts since 18 Oct, 2010 from Japan
Thanks @fairlyclose for the tutorial link. I've been going through the videos. Definitely a good starting place. and thanks @cryophonic for the tips. You're probably right about patience, it's just that there's never been an opportune time to take my time learning a new software. I always have a new project going in my old software. I just decided it's time I learn it by rebuilding my current project in Studio One and hopefully I'll figure it out well enough to at least get this project done.
As per stability;
I don't really want to make this topic about my previous DAW, but in short, I think nearly any (modern) DAW is going to be more stable than what I am using. It's also not just about the stability, but also the support. When I asked for support with my problems, I was not at all happy with the support teams response.
As per stability;
I don't really want to make this topic about my previous DAW, but in short, I think nearly any (modern) DAW is going to be more stable than what I am using. It's also not just about the stability, but also the support. When I asked for support with my problems, I was not at all happy with the support teams response.
- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Honestly, Studio One is so intuitive that it just does what you expect it to.
So my advice is just start working with it. And if there’s something you want to do that isn’t obvious, just throw some key words into a search and you’ll find a video or a forum post that tells you how to do it within 5 minutes.
Start by trying to rebuild some old songs in Studio One. You’ll already have audio, midi, and plugin settings to work with and you can just focus on the workflow.
So my advice is just start working with it. And if there’s something you want to do that isn’t obvious, just throw some key words into a search and you’ll find a video or a forum post that tells you how to do it within 5 minutes.
Start by trying to rebuild some old songs in Studio One. You’ll already have audio, midi, and plugin settings to work with and you can just focus on the workflow.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I came from Reason after almost 14 years to Studio One and had very few things to figure out from the outset back in 2014, so if you have come from another linear DAW after a long period using it, much of what you already know will seamlessly transition into the way you have worked before, once everything is set up from installation / folder locations for VST Instruments / Effects to the audio interface and folder directories relating to any content you want to use. (You can set up root folder locations in the browser for example).
If you don't have a keyboard specifically designed for Studio One, you may find these images useful to you so you can learn most of the keyboard shortcuts visually. You can find these here, on my site.
There are videos for Studio One 5.1 as well as for previous versions of the program, including update notes of what has been included. Presonus hardware can be found also along with review videos of Studio One.
If you don't have a keyboard specifically designed for Studio One, you may find these images useful to you so you can learn most of the keyboard shortcuts visually. You can find these here, on my site.
There are videos for Studio One 5.1 as well as for previous versions of the program, including update notes of what has been included. Presonus hardware can be found also along with review videos of Studio One.
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 30 Nov, 2007
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- KVRian
- 679 posts since 29 Dec, 2019
Being completely honest, if you're a beatmaker you really should consider something like a Maschine MK3, Maschine Mikro MK3, or an MPC Studio MK2.ntom wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:25 am After some recent ahem frustrations with my current DAW (I'm not naming names) I decided that...gosh, I've been using this piddly little DAW for way, way too long. Well over 10 years now.
I wanted to move on to something that is more stable, and it seemed like Studio One was the answer to the stability thing...However, I've spent a number of hours playing around with it and reading their (holy shit 457 pages) manual. (For the record, didn't read the whole thing yet, still working through it all)
Anyways, I really want to like this DAW, but I just can't seem to find my way "in"....if that makes sense?
I was kind of hoping some of you might either have a good resource to help me get more familiar with it, or just some advice. Like...a non-hype beast "YO WHAT UP HOMIES, WE GONNA MAKE SOME PHATASS BEATS USING GODS GIFT OF STUDIO ONE" tutorial from like "beginner to competent".
Any suggestions? (feel free to also recommend alternatives if you think I'm barking up the wrong tree with Studio One)
Cakewalk is a pretty decent upgrade over Mixcraft Pro Studio, and you're obviously on Windows.
I would go that route instead of going to Studio One, because you're going to get more value out of the hardware purchase and expansions than you will out of the DAW upgrade - considering there is a free upgrade available to you already.
Also, the amount of educational material available in those ecosystems is vast, and practically all of it is targeted at the market segment you say you operate in.
If I said you are blocked, I won't see your posts. Please kindly refrain from quoting or replying to me.
"Notifications for Nothing" are annoying. Blocking me in return is a good way to avoid this.
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- KVRist
- 362 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
There‘s also a dedicated hardware controller for Studio One that seems to be very capable and rather cheap (you even get a decent version of S1 with it): Atom SQ by Presonus.
- KVRAF
- 5383 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
if so, check out this awesome musician's tutorial:Trensharo wrote: Mon Dec 27, 2021 5:08 amBeing completely honest, if you're a beatmaker you really should consider something like a Maschine MK3, Maschine Mikro MK3, or an MPC Studio MK2.
https://noquantize.teachable.com/p/maschine
Here's a preview video:
https://noquantize.teachable.com/course ... s/14300542
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 29 May, 2013 from Durham
Yep. "Paint-by-numbers techno" - I call it that too - That's why I have never tried to make any techno, its too easy, too boring, too formulaic. If you're on drugs 4 to the floor in a lightshow is fun, but if you have to take drugs to enjoy it, it isn't intrinsically or inherently 'musical'.jamcat wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:21 pmHome taping isn't killing music. Paint-by-numbers techno is.fairlyclose wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:35 amMy God that is truly awfulxbitz wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:30 am what about a nice song?
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-1
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-2
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- KVRAF
- 7692 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
That sucks. That happens to me all the time too. Or the forum just hangs for several minutes doing nothing after you hit submit. I think it's related to some anti-DOS protection they've loaded on the KVR server that logs you out constantly. Ironically, KVR is DOSing its members with it.fairlyclose wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:26 pm I foolishly wrote a long response expanding on your comment about replacement of artists. The forum software deleted it tho when I clicked submit. I have noticed this a few times lately and twice today (when I was editing a response)
Anyhow, it was about the effect of commodification on specialisation
I found that after you login again you can usually hit the back button a couple times and your post will be in the reply box. But I usually copy&paste the whole thing before I play submission roulette.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP