Just to balance out the crappy title of that other thread...
I've always enjoyed FL Studio but I'm particularly thrilled with version 5. Loop Recording is something I've wanted for ages. Automation clips are an intrigueing enhancement.
FL5 IS EXCEPTIONAL
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- KVRist
- 72 posts since 12 Dec, 2002 from South Florida
Ah...this again....
You can say what ya want about FL, but I think its one of the greatest pieces of software to ever have been written. People want to hate on it because its simple or unprofessional. Whatever. I think we get locked into thinking that its the gear that makes the artist but it's not. There is not one sick musical idea floating around in my head that I could not somehow lay down in FL and trust me when I say that theres a lot of sick shit in my head. But anyway...
I started out with an SR16 drum machine and a MS1 sampler and a shitty 4-track (in which only 3 of the tracks worked) so when FL (Fruity Loops at the time) came to be, I was more than happy to "jump on the bandwagon". Image Line is a solid company thats alive and well and is constantly improving on their already solid product. So obviously theyre doing something right, right?
Sure there will be kids that use FL with all of its built in sounds and generators and make some weak ass shit...but then others (myself included) will digitally molest the hell out of every possible tweak within FL and come up with some...wack ass shit.
Its not how long you talk brother...it's what you put in it.
With that being said...
You can say what ya want about FL, but I think its one of the greatest pieces of software to ever have been written. People want to hate on it because its simple or unprofessional. Whatever. I think we get locked into thinking that its the gear that makes the artist but it's not. There is not one sick musical idea floating around in my head that I could not somehow lay down in FL and trust me when I say that theres a lot of sick shit in my head. But anyway...
I started out with an SR16 drum machine and a MS1 sampler and a shitty 4-track (in which only 3 of the tracks worked) so when FL (Fruity Loops at the time) came to be, I was more than happy to "jump on the bandwagon". Image Line is a solid company thats alive and well and is constantly improving on their already solid product. So obviously theyre doing something right, right?
Sure there will be kids that use FL with all of its built in sounds and generators and make some weak ass shit...but then others (myself included) will digitally molest the hell out of every possible tweak within FL and come up with some...wack ass shit.
Its not how long you talk brother...it's what you put in it.
With that being said...
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from Madrid
What really pisses ppl off abpout FL is.....
The fact that they have spent sooooo much money in different apps before they found FL and now they have no use for any of them
PPl get hung up in so many stupid litttle things. If you like it . Good for you.
If not. Move on.
I love it and it´s all I use. I own Nuendo too and don´t like it except for the mixer.
Germ
The fact that they have spent sooooo much money in different apps before they found FL and now they have no use for any of them
PPl get hung up in so many stupid litttle things. If you like it . Good for you.
If not. Move on.
I love it and it´s all I use. I own Nuendo too and don´t like it except for the mixer.
Germ
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
I think if electronic music is your main goal, then FL most certainly is the tool to use. It accepts so many different technologies, from buzz, vst, vsti, dxi, samples, mp3, etc.
What is extremely cool – especially now – is the automation – everything can be linked to almost everything else – simply – either by the new autoclips, where you can see the automation curves (you draw) or use the LFO and create smooth repeating patterns. Plus the standard automation that was already in FL, link controllers internally together with a few mouse clicks, change their automation type (stepped, inverse, less by 2 etc) plus there is a formula controller where, if you feel like it, you can write your own automaton curve mathematically.
Some of the features I like in the channel settings is the ability to layer, so if I have two albino instruments plus one rhino and one Z3ta – I can have them all playing from one score created in the piano roll, all with their own key range etc.
The piano roll, built in things like appreg, quantise, transpose etc, all mouse clicks away.
The FL slicer can take a wave sample – chop it and layer it, so that each new chopped segment is in its own channel, this can have its own FX and all triggered via the layer channel, so you could use drum maps for example.
Also if you don’t want to fill loads of channels with samples, create some kits for the FPC drum machine, its real real low on cpu use so its possible to add more than one easy.
And I think you should get yourself a decent wave editor too if you get that into it, though FL does have basic wave editing features available – I use Audition for my wave editing.
For sure if you want scoring and advanced heavy midi you will need other tools, if you get really into music making you should take advantage of the instruments available at K-v-R – FL is a perfect host for them all - don’t just stick to what’s in FL generator wise, but you can if ya want. Explore the sonic landscape.
Free regular updates too, ah! I could write all day about FL, its features, its benefits and how easy it’s made making music electronically, makes for a really good introduction, right upto advanced music making (you want more later – bolt it into cubase as a vsti) – if you get into it, you will be real hooked – FL is a drug and it will make an addict of you.
Best regards,
Spe3d
What is extremely cool – especially now – is the automation – everything can be linked to almost everything else – simply – either by the new autoclips, where you can see the automation curves (you draw) or use the LFO and create smooth repeating patterns. Plus the standard automation that was already in FL, link controllers internally together with a few mouse clicks, change their automation type (stepped, inverse, less by 2 etc) plus there is a formula controller where, if you feel like it, you can write your own automaton curve mathematically.
Some of the features I like in the channel settings is the ability to layer, so if I have two albino instruments plus one rhino and one Z3ta – I can have them all playing from one score created in the piano roll, all with their own key range etc.
The piano roll, built in things like appreg, quantise, transpose etc, all mouse clicks away.
The FL slicer can take a wave sample – chop it and layer it, so that each new chopped segment is in its own channel, this can have its own FX and all triggered via the layer channel, so you could use drum maps for example.
Also if you don’t want to fill loads of channels with samples, create some kits for the FPC drum machine, its real real low on cpu use so its possible to add more than one easy.
And I think you should get yourself a decent wave editor too if you get that into it, though FL does have basic wave editing features available – I use Audition for my wave editing.
For sure if you want scoring and advanced heavy midi you will need other tools, if you get really into music making you should take advantage of the instruments available at K-v-R – FL is a perfect host for them all - don’t just stick to what’s in FL generator wise, but you can if ya want. Explore the sonic landscape.
Free regular updates too, ah! I could write all day about FL, its features, its benefits and how easy it’s made making music electronically, makes for a really good introduction, right upto advanced music making (you want more later – bolt it into cubase as a vsti) – if you get into it, you will be real hooked – FL is a drug and it will make an addict of you.
Best regards,
Spe3d
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 23 Oct, 2004
I still need Magix for audio editing and mixing audio only. Workflow preference, mostly, but Magix has NEVER let me down. I can imagine someone buying SX or Sonar, and then discovering the $80 Magix and being VERY pissed off.Germ wrote:What really pisses ppl off abpout FL is.....
The fact that they have spent sooooo much money in different apps before they found FL and now they have no use for any of them
Likewise, I really love EnergyXT, even though I have not learned how to use it very well yet. But I'm afraid that when I do, I will be pissed of at FL
Nah.
I need a few plugins, but Wusik is making me wonder just how few...
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 7 Oct, 2003
FL is great, no question about it.
I think the next thing it needs is Freeze.
BTW, how do you guys lower cpu usage right now in FL?
I think the next thing it needs is Freeze.
BTW, how do you guys lower cpu usage right now in FL?
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
Its normally effects in the mixer slots that will take your cpu use higher, you can temporally sort that out by selecting this in the mixer, top left, left click and select ‘smart disable for all’superddman wrote:FL is great, no question about it.
I think the next thing it needs is Freeze.
BTW, how do you guys lower cpu usage right now in FL?
or if you are really pushing it, render out the track, either the pattern or in song mode split the mixer tracks – then bring in the wave to the audio part of the playlist and deactivate the instruments that this wave represents.
Best regards,
Spe3d
:O)
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- KVRian
- 1023 posts since 14 Jan, 2004 from germany
never tried this before - it's damn cool!Spe3D wrote:
Some of the features I like in the channel settings is the ability to layer, so if I have two albino instruments plus one rhino and one Z3ta – I can have them all playing from one score created in the piano roll, all with their own key range etc.
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from Antwerp
Yes, from a pure objective point of view : FlStudio is simply the best.
I know it is programmed mainly in Delphi, oh man, there must be incredible routines in the source to do the things it does!
In fact, it makes me sometimes depressed to see that kind of excellence...
Where others use clips (channels) to build up a music composition, they use patterns. This is, to me, still the most innovative part of FlStudio.
EXCEPTIONAL!
I know it is programmed mainly in Delphi, oh man, there must be incredible routines in the source to do the things it does!
In fact, it makes me sometimes depressed to see that kind of excellence...
Where others use clips (channels) to build up a music composition, they use patterns. This is, to me, still the most innovative part of FlStudio.
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- KVRian
- 1023 posts since 14 Jan, 2004 from germany
these are little clips which cointain a editableKriminal wrote:Seen this mentioned a few times, care to explain what this is exactly?jzero wrote:Automation clips are an intrigueing enhancement.
curve and (if u want) an LFO curve
u can assign these clips to any paramter in FL
or VST knobs. These clips can be driven by other
clips or functions.
They are just ease to handle and very flexible.
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
Kriminal wrote:Seen this mentioned a few times, care to explain what this is exactly?jzero wrote:Automation clips are an intrigueing enhancement.
Automation of controls in FL was largely hidden, unless you used the automation editor (bit like a midi automation editor).
Now with auto clips the user can draw paths for knobs and controls to follow – or use the channel settings LFO and create repeating patterns, speed them up slow them down change the shape and depth and even automate the automation.
Best regards,
Spe3d
:O)
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
Firstly, thanks for the info
So, are they all preset shapes you load in, or can you draw them yourself. In my app you open an Event Editor window, and draw the event freehand or with a line tool.
Same kinda thing?
Do these get put somewhere, in the song window/playlist?
So, are they all preset shapes you load in, or can you draw them yourself. In my app you open an Event Editor window, and draw the event freehand or with a line tool.
Same kinda thing?
Do these get put somewhere, in the song window/playlist?
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
You can place them in the playlist in the audio section, they can be freehand or you can select the LFO and change shapes with the various settings, its cool to automate LFO’s with freehand AutoClips – the light grey in the picture are LFO’s the others freehand.Kriminal wrote:Firstly, thanks for the info
So, are they all preset shapes you load in, or can you draw them yourself. In my app you open an Event Editor window, and draw the event freehand or with a line tool.
Same kinda thing?
Do these get put somewhere, in the song window/playlist?
Also the autoclips are freely movable in the playlist, and can be stacked on top of one another. It makes it all very easy, and very powerful
Best regards,
Spe3d
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- KVRAF
- 10149 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Another for the automation clips, they are sooooooooo sexy, the drawable LFO is just a dream come true
for the automation clips, they are sooooooooo sexy, the drawable LFO is just a dream come true