Pashkuli: PMN (Plain Music Notation)

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
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jancivil wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:27 pm Pashkuli. Who does that?!
Big ego/little clue.
Brand name. Chill. Easy to search by keyword. Not my name. It means cocoons.
Because of... design.
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If you're trying to promote your "Pashkuli Keyboard" and this is the look, you're shooting your nose off to spite your face here. This is the wrong room to try and fake it

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BertKoor wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm @nix808: I see splattering hihats at the top, rounded string pads, saw tooth base line and phat base kicks at the bottom. Will sound ace on the dance floor.
oh thanks for the comment! yes it is techno, drawn in 2001

-it is something like the house/trance that might have been found on a mixmag disc at that time
rave music also had me involved, I hardly knew of psy at that point
It was a hex panel piece that was 'the life of a beat',
a fine arts project at Uni here in Tas
I wonder what I want in here
-my site is gone and music a mess

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nix808 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:03 am
BertKoor wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:17 pm @nix808: I see splattering hihats at the top, rounded string pads, saw tooth base line and phat base kicks at the bottom. Will sound ace on the dance floor.
oh thanks for the comment! yes it is techno, drawn in 2001

-it is something like the house/trance that might have been found on a mixmag disc at that time
rave music also had me involved, I hardly knew of psy at that point
It was a hex panel piece that was 'the life of a beat',
a fine arts project at Uni here in Tas
Too bad you are so blatant and somehow not capable of opening your own thread for this topic or use PMs, yet have been using online forum platforms for a while now.
No need for this off-topic, please.

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I think I would be interested, but only on the condition that one of the symbols be replaced with this;

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donkey tugger wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:21 am I think I would be interested, but only on the condition that one of the symbols be replaced with this;


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Sorry, only vector images are suitable, to avoid resolution scaling problems.
Also the symbols must be closed and without any texturing or cross-hatching, to avoid illegibility.

If you do not know what those concerns are with regards to typeface design, you will have to eat a lot of cans of real beans, whilst learning about it, to even get my 'cool beans' approval.
Make some effort. Learn something.

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gaggle of hermits wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:20 pm
jancivil wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:14 pm This should not be brought in, this was someone else posturing hard to seem more advanced than the discussion.
That kind of analysis is not meeting a real need, talking about tertial constructs that are easily understood with the extant tools. the need met by pitch-class analysis occurs with serial atonality, so-called, dodecaphonic serialism. Analyzing Webern et al. And the reason for 0 is not roots of simple chords, it has a specific application, there is no "1" as in tonal music. It is instructive, however, of a system that superseded an earlier system meeting a particular need and point in analysis. I went into it in one of those threads, I'm not going to do all that here.
i wasn't recommending it, just explaining what the notation was attempting to describe. i agree that the idea of pitch degree relative to some root tone in a 12-tone serialism context is a bit weird.

otoh, that thread as far as i can tell was about a trance tune – though i can't see why moving outside regular diatonic descriptions would be a great advantage there.
No, I know, it was shawshaw that recommended it, in general I object to it, it does nothing in this discussion amd promotes some nonsense I remember too well.

I don't remember which thread, sounds like the one that started in saying sus4 "is" a quartal harmony, which is ahistorical.

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Pashkuli wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:06 am
donkey tugger wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:21 am I think I would be interested, but only on the condition that one of the symbols be replaced with this;


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Sorry, only vector images are suitable, to avoid resolution scaling problems.
Also the symbols must be closed and without any texturing or cross-hatching, to avoid illegibility.

If you do not know what those concerns are with regards to typeface design, you will have to eat a lot of cans of real beans, whilst learning about it, to even get my 'cool beans' approval.
Make some effort. Learn something.
What about this one?

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ayup

this I especially like: "If you think me, my unsound methods, and links to 2000s trance are irritating, just wait for the time when post-2010s EDM fellows realize their youth is past and the fun has shifted more towards analysis and theory :D"
<If you think me are irritating>... You AM irritating
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"Make some effort. Learn something." See if you can buy a sense of humor.
IBTL.

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Well, if the lad's system can't incorporate my ideas, then I'll make my own.

The symbols will be better, and it'll be a lot simpler, given that there'll be no need for any of that fancy jaaath chord or odd time signature nonsense.

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jancivil wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:11 am No, I know, it was shawshaw that recommended it, in general I object to it, it does nothing in this discussion amd promotes some nonsense I remember too well.

I don't remember which thread, sounds like the one that started in saying sus4 "is" a quartal harmony, which is ahistorical.
Sorry Jan...

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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:22 pm A month ago I learned how to design font (typeface for PMN), because it will be needed for the JavaScript app in the browser
So your symbols are not included in Unicode? That's too bad, another hurdle for broad adaptation.

You are aware of the fact that your font has copyright? Don't know whether that's a good or bad thing, just another consideration.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Image
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donkey tugger wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:32 am Well, if the lad's system can't incorporate my ideas, then I'll make my own.
That is a good start. Good luck, but you have to learn a lot. Telling you that not to scare you, rather to get you in the appropriate mindset. You can start from the 12 notes\ (and the corresponding tones in the musically relevant registers). Learn about historical reasons for the status quo to be as it is now and how dumb it is (was) by inception, in particular: dividing the notes in groups (tetrachords and descending cadences in ancient times), why the Latin alphabet and why A is where it is on the piano, why the names were Ut, Re, Mi... later Do, Re, Mi...
and then you will understand... well, hopefully, cause I have seen you have some problems with logic already (suggesting another pixelated image), but nevermind... we all learn.

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BertKoor wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:36 am You are aware of the fact that your font has copyright? Don't know whether that's a good or bad thing, just another consideration.
What copyright? The music notation is free for everyone to use.
Only my keyboard designs have been patented a few years ago, when I made the first prototype for one of them.

The typeface uses the 'Private area' code (of Unicode) and thus is not SMuFL compatible (or whatever that structure for modern notation was), because it is totally different by design.

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