Pashkuli: PMN (Plain Music Notation)

[fmr]

A player is performing the music.
A sound designer is emitting sounds.

It depends what you mean by "performing the music". Care to elaborate how it differs from "emitting sounds"?

[vurt]

surely a singer emits sounds, or a synth/instrument, not the sound designer?
unless they are swearing about the synth of course

[Pashkuli]

It is almost the same difference between a tone and a sound.
If you start categorising sounds as tones: meaning have a structure of discrete frequency modulations of that sound, you can call it a tone, tones.
If you want to write them down on paper, those tones become notes (pun intended).
You can have as many as you want (not just 12 or 12 TET).

Then Music is such an arrangement of tones (notes, if you do not like to produce sounds on the go), which is both time and space constrained. Nobody would like to listen "Fur Elise" if the first note is 1 hour long an so on.
So, we confine certain time frame and this leads to beats, pulses... not necessarily a measure though.
This leads to melody or\and harmony.

Just emitting sounds or producing sounds does not qualify as Music.
Can you make a melody out of one sound (one tone) only?
Yes, but it will have to compensate with being rhythmic to convey some interest, permutation, otherwise will be just a pulse.
A pulse of sound. It may be classified as a tone, but once classified means there is a door opened for other tones of this sound.

So, one tone is also just a sound, technically.

[vurt]

and two tone, is ska!

[fmr]

So, one tone is also just a sound, technically.

Oh look, they are sounds... Damn

And what if the violinists tap the violin body with the bow. Is that a tone or a sound? Are they still producing music, ot do they suddenly become sound designers? The same applies to guitarists.

What is a pianist doing if it plays a prepared piano, or plays the strings of the piano? Is it still paying music or doing "sound design"?

And what if a musician fails a note, and plays something that's basically noise? Does it still qualifies as a musician, or does it become momentarily a sound designer?

And percussionists/drummers? Do they qualify as musicians? Because, AFAIK, they don't produce "tones"...

Damn... this music things is very complicated

[Pashkuli]

and two tone, is ska!

I don't mind music of just two tones. Actually a big chunk of ancient music was such.
But only as an underlying harmony. The singers would usually do more notes, mainly pentatonic.

When pentatonic and the so called Mediterranean modes met, we got the 12 notes.
It was a good thing. But somehow they got segregated.
Funny thing is you can witness this in the design of piano keyboards.

Obviously the pentatonic was added, squeezed in a way, resulting in the five keys being narrower and raised a bit. Finally they could have fairly same width, only the 7 had to stick out to somehow accommodate for the thumb offset.

It was so poorly done, but the state of the art was pretty limited: wood and metal, maybe some leather\fabric\guts. Wood for the light parts, metal for the support and structure, also the strings!

Nevertheless, the piano keyboard is clumsy. It is atrocious actually.
The mechanics have been improved really great over the last 300 years, but the keyboard is still somewhere between 5th and 12th century AD.

I am not talking about Europe and the so called modes and tetrachord cadences.

Most of what later influenced blues, jazz, ska, etc. is a simple two-three note harmony from pentatonic music. Honestly, I am still headbanging on this song...

[zerocrossing]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

[Hink]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

I think you're a little late on that, it's been happening longer than most of us have been alive...combined, sorry but that was a swing and a miss

[vurt]

and two tone, is ska!

I don't mind music of just two tones. Actually a big chunk of ancient music was such.
But only as an underlying harmony. The singers would usually do more notes, mainly pentatonic.

When pentatonic and the so called Mediterranean modes met, we got the 12 notes.
It was a good thing. But somehow they got segregated.
Funny thing is you can witness this in the design of piano keyboards.

Obviously the pentatonic was added, squeezed in a way, resulting in the five keys being narrower and raised a bit. Finally they could have fairly same width, only the 7 had to stick out to somehow accommodate for the thumb offset.

It was so poorly done, but the state of the art was pretty limited: wood and metal, maybe some leather\fabric\guts. Wood for the light parts, metal for the support and structure, also the strings!

Nevertheless, the piano keyboard is clumsy. It is atrocious actually.
The mechanics have been improved really great over the last 300 years, but the keyboard is still somewhere between 5th and 12th century AD.

I am not talking about Europe and the so called modes and tetrachord cadences.

Most of what later influenced blues, jazz, ska, etc. is a simple two-three note harmony from pentatonic music. Honestly, I am still headbanging on this song...

do you remember the good old days before the ghost town?

this town, it's comin like a ghost town

not to mention the bloody mirror in the bathroom and the rat in the kitchen dammit

movement of jah people
i an eye!

[shawshawraw]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

Reminds me of the "Frygian" mode

[vurt]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

Reminds me of the "Frygian" mode

the coldest of the modes.

[vurt]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

we call this "american"

[vurt]

I’m inventing a langwige called “Inglish” where it’s just English but spelled fonetically.

I think you're a little late on that, it's been happening longer than most of us have been alive...combined, sorry but that was a swing and a miss

damn you sybil!!!

[Hink]

I live in Maine

Maine Slang, Local Humor, And Wicked Funny Words

Maine is a far east place, Down East they say - but it's not down at all, it's up in the Northeastern US corner, practically in Canaduh as they say. Maine is filled with characters who speak their own special language. Folks from away don't always get what the heck Mainahs are sayin, but that's ok. It aint nothin' a lobstah roll won't cure.

If you are visiting Maine, or if you're what we call a transplant, from away but you are now residin' heah, this list of Maine terms, local slang, and wicked Maine accents, might help you out should you find yourselves in a bit of a sticky wicket.

Ayuh - means yes, or at least acknowledgment from a Mainah.
Bah Hahbah - Bar Harbor pronounced by a Mainah - you see "er" is pronounced ah... "r's" dont get a lot of love in Maine
Beans or the Beanah - LL Beans' famous store - you go to Beans or the Beanah to get yourself some new Beanah boots... drop the LL to sound like a local
Bob Marley - a wicked funny Maine comedian and humorist, Maine loves him more than the grass smokin, peace pledging Jamaican of the same name
Cah - this is a car...
Camp - a Maine summer home, ski house or hunting lodge, you go Upta camp where there is no wee-fee, cell service, etc.
Chowdah - delicious Maine soup of white cream usually chock full of clams or lobster
Clammin - digging for mussels or clams
Cunnin - cute or adorable
Deah - a four legged animal with antlers - deer, smaller than a moose but still good huntin, fill ya freezah all wintah
Down East - by definition: heading up the Maine coast beyond Boothbay, not actually down geographically
Fay yah - a Fair or festival of farm animals, rides, craft and fried dough, The Fryeburg Fair for example. Fay yah's are often held in the summah but some are in the fall
Flatlander - visitors from away, usually Massachusetts (aka: mass-holes)
Hahbah - a cove off the ocean, like Bah Hahbah, or Cape Porpoise Harbor.
4 Wheelah - an ATV with four wheels, a Maine toy in all season, best enjoyed muddin and 4wheelin upta camp
Lobstah - singular, plural, just leave off the R, and don't ask why they aren't red if they haven't been cooked yet
Maahhden's - The Maine salvage & surplus store - Mardens - where you find wicked good bahgains on a whole mess of stuff. One man's factory reject is another man's treasure. Stick around long enough and you too will soon be sing-in, "I should of bought it - when I saw it - at Maahden's."
Reny's - same thing as Marden's, and you can get Caahahts here too - everyone in Maine wears Carharts - their indestructible, flame retardant work pants, don't ya know...
Snomachinin - going snowmobiling upta camp
UptaCamp - when you go to your other more rustic place, a camp or cabin on a lake or the coast.

Wicked - an exclamation - wicked good chowdah, wicked cold, wicked hot, wicked some awful weathah..
Wicked Pissah - an extreme emphasis on how shockingly extraordinary something is.
"You can't get theya from heah" - a Mainer's disinterest in providing you directions...

And if you ever ask a real Main ah, "What's the weather supposed to be like?" Do not be surprised if he looks to the sky, holds out his hand and says, "Oh, 'bout like this."

You get the picture. Enjoy your time in Maine, and don't be wicked shocked if the locals aren't overly chatty with you. You're from away, so you aint one a them, don't ya know.

We've been doing it a long time, nt a shot time like my dad would say. My fav is Juet, (did you eat), you walk in my relatives houses when I was a kid, Hi John (with a very pronounced short O, kinda more jAWn), juet? Didnt matter, yu were going too

[Pashkuli]

You do not have to worry about the phonetic 1:1 representation of English.
It will happen.
Because of its "international" popularity. Its spread and "internationality" will be its demise (as spoken) and its change to a more precise phonetic spelling.

We won't be alive to see it as a final result, but we can see it happening... online. It is inevitьbьl.