Pashkuli: PMN (Plain Music Notation)

[imrae]

I can prove any day, any time why the current music notation is... the way it is and needs to retire, take its place in Music history with dignity, before it gets desecrated as a consequence of the passive aggressive behaviour of its supporters.

And yet your main line of argument so far has been a genetic fallacy.

This thread was not meant at all to attract classically trained, musically educated scholars and individuals with whatever degree or prestige awards they might have won along the way of their career.

"I can prove it as long as no experts are watching". What is this, a magic show?

[Erisian]

the passive aggressive behaviour of its supporters.

I like the way this psychological term gets abused so much on the internet when somebody can't handle other people's opinions.

[gaggle of hermits]

the passive aggressive behaviour of its supporters.

I like the way this psychological term gets abused so much on the internet when somebody can't handle other people's opinions.

what I like is that it's a symptom of both passive aggressive behaviour and projection. a two-fer.

Specific signs of passive-aggressive behavior include:

Resentment and opposition to the demands of others, especially the demands of people in positions of authority
Resistance to cooperation, procrastination and intentional mistakes in response to others' demands
Cynical, sullen or hostile attitude
Frequent complaints about feeling underappreciated or cheated

- https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-life ... q-20057901

[Pashkuli]

"I can prove it as long as no experts are watching". What is this, a magic show?

Hello, expert!
Which note is this one?

note.jpg

[BertKoor]

Hello, expert!
Which note is this one?

I'm by no means an expert, but that's the quarter note. When discussing music you don't use staff notation to refer to a single note. You'd just call it by it's name. And you know that too.

By the way, do you have any formal training in playing guitar or any other thing in music?

[Pashkuli]

@BertKoor
This question was addressed to the expert @imrae.
Duration is correct, but which pitch should I play? it is a note, at least that is obvious.

No formal (institutional) training at any music instrument.
I have taken lessons in drums, private lessons and that is it. I play guitars (self taught, from TAB)... mostly rock\metal\flamenco and pop songs here and there.

[Pashkuli]

We still waiting for your "prove any day, any time" on the provided examples in this thread and nothing happened.

@mladi
Laddie, I do not perform requests on demand "right here, right now".
Have done it long time ago. It leads to: "I am not used to this, so it is not as good as the old."
What would be enough? A piano piece? A whole opera? Concerto score?

Such demands are never enough. I also got requests to notate micro-tonal\atonal and sound-design pieces.

Imagine I write a piece of your request... and all of sudden you respond to it as:
"I would like to read and write music this way."

Never going to happen. And it does not matter, because there are no reasons to do it so.

[imrae]

"I can prove it as long as no experts are watching". What is this, a magic show?

Hello, expert!
Which note is this one?

note.jpg

This has nothing to do with my point. You explicitly tried to dismiss experts from the conversation; I point out that this is a suspicious action. I do not claim expertise, only a practical working knowledge. From your position the two might be indistinguishable.

As it happens, I can try to answer the question. This is a note without a stave, so the pitch range is undefined. A percussionist would have no trouble interpreting it, they can hit whichever instrument they are standing in front of. (This would be indicated at the top of the sheet.)

Conventionally there would be one line, making it easier to follow the lines of music and confirm that there is no vertical movement. But as this piece of music consists of one note, that is unnecessary.



(It's possible that my answer is not quite correct, but as you have asked the real experts not to participate, we many never know.)

[Erisian]

We still waiting for your "prove any day, any time" on the provided examples in this thread and nothing happened.

@mladi
Laddie, I do not perform requests on demand "right here, right now".
Have done it long time ago. It leads to: "I am not used to this, so it is not as good as the old."
What would be enough? A piano piece? A whole opera? Concerto score?

Such demands are never enough. I also got requests to notate micro-tonal\atonal and sound-design pieces.

Imagine I write a piece of your request... and all of sudden you respond to it as:
"I would like to read and write music this way."

Never going to happen. And it does not matter, because there are no reasons to do it so.

Then there is no point to this thread.

[vurt]

"I can prove it as long as no experts are watching". What is this, a magic show?

Hello, expert!
Which note is this one?

note.jpg

d.

[Pashkuli]

d.

hahaha, I see what you did there, so this next note is p:

note p.jpg

[vurt]

nope, that's a b flat.

[Pashkuli]

Then there is no point to this thread.

Not sure what you mean, but again...
This thread is just a place on a forum, spreading a word, advertisement if you will.
It is not a product, service or intended "to sell" anything.

It is an idea I have and designed, applicable as a Music notation. So, here it is.

[shawshawraw]

Hello, expert!
Which note is this one?

note.jpg

Well, let me make an analogy in English. What concept does "the" refer to?

English is stupid! Every word has to refer to a concept!

[Erisian]

Then there is no point to this thread.

Not sure what you mean, but again...
This thread is just a place on a forum, spreading a word, advertisement if you will.
It is not a product, service or intended "to sell" anything.

It is an idea I have and designed, applicable as a Music notation. So, here it is.

But you are trying to sell it to us, otherwise why make it public?