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wuworld · Post by **wuworld** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:10 pm

When making music, how important is the piano roll for you? Or maybe you don't use it.

apoclypse · Post by **apoclypse** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:08 pm

Its important in that I need to make sure I can edit what I play into the DAW, but I don't need anything fancy other than nice tools that work well. I don't need realtime note features for example. As long as I can transpose easily, have scale mode for easy visualization, and decent automation drawing tools then I'm good to go.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:15 pm

Very. I play most of my parts into the DAW with my synths and MIDI controllers, so I use it to clean up my playing, adding/editing automation, sometimes making variations, transposing, or whatever. It’s one of the most important parts of any DAW that I use.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:15 pm

wuworld wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:10 pm When making music, how important is the piano roll for you? Or maybe you don't use it.

It's important. How about you? Why do you care what others do?

Erisian · Post by **Erisian** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:32 pm

If I need a tight rhythm with, eg, drums/percussion or piano left hand, I need either piano roll or score. I prefer human playing for atmospheres/textures and for the lead.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:46 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:15 pm
wuworld wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:10 pm When making music, how important is the piano roll for you? Or maybe you don't use it.
It's important. How about you? Why do you care what others do?

OP is on a roll today, it seems.

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jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:43 pm

piano roll is my life

this is bragging, but with me there's no difference between modes of operation. I prefer human time so I draw human time if I have to.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:11 pm

I can't play stuff to save my life and I very rarely use audio / samples.

So I'd say - very.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:06 pm

TOtally not important !

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:36 pm

Tracker‘s view is just a different method of doing more or less the same as PRV though.

For me it‘s important, but i seem to have pretty low standards as i really think Reaper‘s PRV is pretty awesome too. And yes, i tried FL Studio aswell

AdvancedFollower · Post by **AdvancedFollower** » Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:09 pm

It's important in terms of easily being able to resize or move notes around without hunting for pixels. Other than that, I don't use much advanced functionality.

It's also important that there's a "ghost note" feature, the ability to see notes of any other chosen MIDI parts behind the part I'm editing, so I can see my melody in relation to the chords, for example. Most DAWs have this, though FL Studio only has a partial implementation, making its piano roll worse than most other DAWs (you can only see ghost notes of other tracks within the same pattern).

lessera · Post by **lessera** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:12 am

So important, that when I hear a chord progression I like, I envision a series of blocks made up of stacked rectangles with various spaces between them.

No really. I do.

N__K · Post by **N__K** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:30 am

My piano roll is my life
there are many like it,
but the one I have customized in REAPER is mine.

It is my best friend. I have mastered it better than most other things in my life.

I write and edit all my MIDI in it, with the pen interface of a Wacom Cintiq display, while utilizing multitrack MIDI view to see harmonic relations between notes on different tracks.

Without it, I'm useless.

Without me, someone would probably make more popular music with that gear

lessera wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:12 am So important, that when I hear a chord progression I like, I envision a series of blocks made up of stacked rectangles with various spaces between them.

No really. I do.

So do I.

Except in my case it is often the other way around - I see some visual lines (wires on electrical poles etc.) and imagine how they would sound like as notes on 12-TET piano roll. Extra fun when those lines cross eachother in multiple layers and in "per-note automation" style, making the imagined notes morph into eachother - that's something I'd hope to be possible in all DAWs in the future.

wuworld · Post by **wuworld** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:38 pm

chk071 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:46 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:15 pm
wuworld wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:10 pm When making music, how important is the piano roll for you? Or maybe you don't use it.
It's important. How about you? Why do you care what others do?
OP is on a roll today, it seems.

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viewtopic.php?f=102&t=576022

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=576021

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Why are you still replying in my threads?

wuworld · Post by **wuworld** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:38 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:15 pm
wuworld wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:10 pm When making music, how important is the piano roll for you? Or maybe you don't use it.
It's important. How about you? Why do you care what others do?

Why do u care replying in my thread, if it's not something your not interested in discussing the topic?

How important is the piano roll to you?