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kobal wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:28 pm it s definelty the kind of synth that get a big boost of sounding better with good fxs but it could be my programing skill lacking also.

i wonder if some synth are more enhanced with fx than other.. it seems virus can get in a other dimension with fx
Yes, I think effects are an important part of the Virus' sound. Even the simple 3-band equalizer it has can boost the sound quite a bit.

But on the other hand, I wasn't using my Virus TI for more than a year, recently I reconnected it to my PC and after the first "oh, that sound I've missed" moment I'm starting to realize that plugins have come a long way. Afraid to say that, but it seems that many of the patches I've typically associated with the Virus, all this trance and psy stuff, actually may sound better with plugins... at least more modern and closer to what I hear in the commercial releases.
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Hanz Meyzer wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:23 pm I think the Effects section in the virus is remarkably good sounding. But waveform generation sounds very clean, too. Now only a bit better GUI Still is missing. It would already help, if the parameters were at least grouped into pages/tabs. A scrolling list with a ton of parameters is better than nothing, still not really user friendly.
You do know that the GUI version is available from our Discord right? :wink:

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numerouno wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:43 pm
Hanz Meyzer wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:23 pm I think the Effects section in the virus is remarkably good sounding. But waveform generation sounds very clean, too. Now only a bit better GUI Still is missing. It would already help, if the parameters were at least grouped into pages/tabs. A scrolling list with a ton of parameters is better than nothing, still not really user friendly.
You do know that the GUI version is available from our Discord right? :wink:
You mean there's a VST version with GUI? Sorry haven't followed along in a while.

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Yes.

Even though the VST version already has a GUI, but, it's a temporary one, where you have to scroll through hundreds of parameters to find the one you're looking for. The new one will be much more like a typical plugin GUI, as has been shown on the last few pages.

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:04 pm
numerouno wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:43 pm
Hanz Meyzer wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:23 pm I think the Effects section in the virus is remarkably good sounding. But waveform generation sounds very clean, too. Now only a bit better GUI Still is missing. It would already help, if the parameters were at least grouped into pages/tabs. A scrolling list with a ton of parameters is better than nothing, still not really user friendly.
You do know that the GUI version is available from our Discord right? :wink:
You mean there's a VST version with GUI? Sorry haven't followed along in a while.
Correct yes!

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recursive one wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:15 pm
kobal wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:28 pm it s definelty the kind of synth that get a big boost of sounding better with good fxs but it could be my programing skill lacking also.

i wonder if some synth are more enhanced with fx than other.. it seems virus can get in a other dimension with fx
Yes, I think effects are an important part of the Virus' sound. Even the simple 3-band equalizer it has can boost the sound quite a bit.

But on the other hand, I wasn't using my Virus TI for more than a year, recently I reconnected it to my PC and after the first "oh, that sound I've missed" moment I'm starting to realize that plugins have come a long way. Afraid to say that, but it seems that many of the patches I've typically associated with the Virus, all this trance and psy stuff, actually may sound better with plugins... at least more modern and closer to what I hear in the commercial releases.
when trying back the C with emu i felt the same, it s kinda oldschool va sound , when it get a gui i will try it back more in depth and i might use it for some sounds but yes with plugins we are more than covered.

have to see in the mix also , for example your track with the virus was sounding less comon than the plugin mix in term of sound caractere, it might help to get a own sound identity these day but the same can be done with using plugins that are less popular than the usual suspect for some sounds..
artists like outsiders burn in noise ect use a lot of "classic" sound it bring nostalgia and for this newer or better synth technicaly dosent mean better in the musical context
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I have the right do say what ever I feel and believe about this emulator and this without permission.

So let me try to tell everybody again this emulator has the character and everything but not the real soul of the access virus.

The original sound is warm and the filter don't make your ears bleed.

I understand people that never had the hardware.

But the sound is miles away the truth is because of overriding the frequency.

The power you need to run this tells me oh lord there is something wrong in the future if I need
it for one synth like that.


Says someone who knows. :borg:

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OrionAlpha101 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:52 pm I have the right do say what ever I feel and believe about this emulator and this without permission.

So let me tell everybody again this emulator has the character and everything but not the real soul of the access virus.

The original sound is warm and the filter don't make your ears bleed.

I understand people that never had the hardware.

But the sound is miles away the truth is.

The power you need to run this tells me oh lord there is something wrong in the future if I need
it for one synth like that.

Buy yourself a real virus but i would prefer U-he Zebra.

Says someone who knows. :borg:
You have no idea what you are talking about.

I own a virus B, C, Powercore virus & Virus TI but this is besides the point.
This is an emulator and all the plugin does is emulate the dsp chip & point to parameters.

YOU, have to find the actual virus firmware/rom from the internet or from your own hardware virus.
This is what contain the actual VIRUS CODE...
this is then executed as any other virus, only difference being that the dsp chip is emulated on your PC.

There is no chance that this is any different to the actual virus, because you are loading the ACTUAL code.

There is also no chance for the people behind this to change the filter code or make their own, because they haven't even pulled the code apart.

It's not a complex concept to understand, but we can see you are having difficulties understanding many concepts in this thread anyway :help:

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kobal wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:49 pm it might help to get a own sound identity these day but the same can be done with using plugins that are less popular than the usual suspect for some sounds..
artists like outsiders burn in noise ect use a lot of classic sound that are used since the goa days it bring nostalgia and for this newer or better synth technicaly dosent mean better in the musical context
Been thinking the same, actually I have some tracks where I used both Virus and the plugins like Serum, Spire etc, these tracks are closer to modern sound overall, as far as my production abilities allow, but have a bit of "virusy-ness" in there... which probably only matters for myself, but I think I'll continue making tracks in this way, mostly ITB but adding some bits from the Virus and my analogs here and there.
OrionAlpha101 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:52 pm So let me try to tell everybody again this emulator has the character and everything but not the real soul of the access virus.

The original sound is warm and the filter don't make your ears bleed.
Now you are really talking out of your ass, man.

It's not an emulation, it IS the Access Virus. Whether or not you like its sound doesn't matter, this emulator can't alter the original sound in any way. Obviously it misses the DAC but in the past there were Virus PoCo, Virus TDM, Virus TI which also didn't have a DAC or allowed bypassing it.

Did you ever had the hardware yourself?
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try

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chk071 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:09 pm Yes.

Even though the VST version already has a GUI, but, it's a temporary one, where you have to scroll through hundreds of parameters to find the one you're looking for. The new one will be much more like a typical plugin GUI, as has been shown on the last few pages.
The version available from Discord already has a much better functioning GUI. This one as shown before: Image

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Like I said before I've got the feeling that the output of the real synth has a limiter or something?
Some frequency in the emulator kills your ears that never happened in the hardware.

(But I can understand that some amateurs here do not notice.
Is this is your language here i only have good ears)
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OrionAlpha101 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:26 pm Like I said before I've got the feeling that the output of the real synth has a limiter or something.
Some frequency in the emulator kills your ears that never happened in the hardware.

(But I can understand that some amateurs here do not notice.
Is this is your language here i only have good ears)
it could be just the da converter stage, apprently the ti converters enhance the sound compared to the usb output, i guess the C converters are even more colorfull it might make a difference.. maybe it roll of the highs even more ? :lol:

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Put your headphones on and switch some presets and play around ,after 5 minutes you get pain in your ears trust me.

And if you have any questions in the future about the synth just let me know ;)

That's why I'm writing here. I know this sound generator,
even if many here don't believe it i have nothing against the project.

I'm actually pushing it ...

I definitely don't have to explain myself to anyone and list my hardware.

The provocation some people make here are really ridiculous. :clap:
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The raw sound of the Virus is exceptional. The FX are phenomenal. It has such good sounding algorithms. Many want to bash it because of the hype but there's a real and proven legacy with many hit songs. Kemper struck gold when he made this thing. Much respect to the the whole DSP56300 team.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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OrionAlpha101 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:38 pm Put your headphones on and switch some presets and play around ,after 5 minutes you get pain in your ears trust me.

And if you have any questions in the future about the synth just let me know ;)

That's why I'm writing here. I know this sound generator,
even if many here don't believe it i have nothing against the project.

I'm actually pushing it ...

I definitely don't have to explain myself to anyone and list my hardware.

The provocation some people make here is really ridiculous. :clap:
I'm shocked anyone is taking this guy seriously.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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