IS FM synthesis your goto?

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Definitely not my goto synthesis unless it's for THAT bass sound. However, since getting an Opsix, I'm goingto it more often than I used to. I can now play cheesy organs that are being attacked by a chainsaw. Haven't tried it yet but I suspect I can make a patch that sounds like chainsaws being attacked by a cheesy organ... :scared:

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is it just me thinking OPS7 sound is better than Dexed?

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No

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dune_rave wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:53 am is it just me thinking OPS7 sound is better than Dexed?
One is free, and more or less abandonware. The other is a recently launched commercial product. Do the math.

Anyway, I think Arturia's DX7 V is better than OPS7 (and it had much more advanced features, and a proper preset management, besides a proper GUI).
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fmr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 am
dune_rave wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:53 am is it just me thinking OPS7 sound is better than Dexed?
One is free, and more or less abandonware. The other is a recently launched commercial product. Do the math.

Anyway, I think Arturia's DX7 V is better than OPS7 (and it had much more advanced features, and a proper preset management, besides a proper GUI).
No.
Dexed is not free.
Dexed is open source.

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dune_rave wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:36 am
fmr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 am
dune_rave wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:53 am is it just me thinking OPS7 sound is better than Dexed?
One is free, and more or less abandonware. The other is a recently launched commercial product. Do the math.

Anyway, I think Arturia's DX7 V is better than OPS7 (and it had much more advanced features, and a proper preset management, besides a proper GUI).
No.
Dexed is not free.
Dexed is open source.
Free as in "not payware". :roll:

The fact it is "open source" makes things even worse, since there is nobody actually responsible for the development (compare this situation with Surge, where a team "officially" took over), and there has been NO development in the last couple of years. What's your point?

Anyway, OPS7 isn't worth it, IMO. It sounds good (better than DeXed, not better than others), but that's pretty much the only positive point in its favor.
Fernando (FMR)

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Synthack wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:00 am As a DX7 owner I think OPS7 is way more accurate sounding than dexed.
Yes, it is. But, as I said, DeXed is not the one to compare OPS7 with. Compare it with DX7 V, for example.

Anyway, in what concerns FM, DX7 ceased to be a paradigm a "loooong" time ago. Only those who live in the past still look at DX7 as that.

If looking for an FM synth, I would look for much more than what a DX7 has to offer. Even Yamaha understood that already :shrug:
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:48 am Anyway, in what concerns FM, DX7 ceased to be a paradigm a "loooong" time ago. Only those who live in the past still look at DX7 as that.
Interesting. Been using FM8 for years here and there. It's a big synth with a great dark tone and not always easy to program.

Never heard a DX7 in person but for me the ops7 was like a revelation. Much easier to get good sounds and the tone is crisp. I could litterally find many applications today, especially with modern effects.

I can compre this to wavetable renaissance where original PPG is now back in demand and people finding uses for it.

To each their own I guess..

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yul wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:35 pm I can compre this to wavetable renaissance where original PPG is now back in demand and people finding uses for it.

To each their own I guess...
Yes, I suppose so. Regarding wavetable, to me it was never out of fashion. I'm an addict since day one. But again, I don't think the paradigm is PPG Wave. I have both Waldorf Microwaves (I and II) and any of them is far superior to the PPG. And the "big" wavetable synth was the Waldorf Wave, IMO.

The PPG was always regarded by me as a kind of "hybrid". The PPG System (which included the Waveterm, adding sampling to the picture, and allowing you to create your own wavetables) was interesting, but the PPG alone, not so much. My opinion, of course.
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I have always hated the thin, shrill noise of FM synths but I'm determined to try and find value in them so I downloaded Dexed yet again. A quick run through of some of the presets was wholly uninspiring but I'm going to try and do something with it.

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Erisian wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:56 pm I have always hated the thin, shrill noise of FM synths but I'm determined to try and find value in them so I downloaded Dexed yet again. A quick run through of some of the presets was wholly uninspiring but I'm going to try and do something with it.
As I said, DeXed is not a good example of the sound possibilities of FM. If you want a DX7 emulation, try the Arturia DX7 V. If you want something more powerful, try Tracktion F.'eM, or Rob Papen Blue 2. Older instruments, but still very good and powerful:

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Bullocks , you don’t need an fm powerhouse like f’em to hear what FM is capable of .
Early Aphex , cylob , good old detroit techno all done with basic yamaha fm synths .
Adding a filter or a plethora of effects won’t make it more capable .
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gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:31 pm Bullocks , you don’t need an fm powerhouse like f’em to hear what FM is capable of .
Early Aphex , cylob , good old detroit techno all done with basic yamaha fm synths .
Adding a filter or a plethora of effects won’t make it more capable .
I love old Yamaha FM. The Plogue synths are perfect of deep bass and thick chords. I also bought the Twisted Electrons MegaFM and have the Blast Beats on pre order.

I also dig new FM too. Will pick up an Opsix at some point. I think someone just has to wrap their head around how FM works and put in some time.
FM engine in the TR8s sounds great.

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