Plogue OPS7 (bit-accurate DX7 emulation!)

[nominil]

Let's not bother the developer with requests that we can easily achieve by ourselves.

Yes, why do any VSTs come with built in effects either? We can all add effects within our DAWs... (sarcasm)

I, for one, would be very interested in OPS7 if they implemented a TX816 Epiano option, with 8 layers. As it is, I haven't heard any decent presets coming out of the OPS7. The whole point of using software is that it should be making life easier for you.

Thank you! That's ALL I was trying to say.
You already have 2 layers. Make an option for 8 layers. It's already fairly modular.

Perhaps TX816 mode can be just an option? Choose between 2 or 8 layer architecture.

Ofcourse you can do everything within a DAW. Load 4 or 8 instances of a plugin, adjust each plugin separately for any minor adjustments? Save each preset as a project? this definitely makes no sense.

Once you understand the power of TX816 programming its easy to understand why it was and still is so in demand.

It's not only simple chorusing effect, but creating each layer just a little bit different contributes to a massive and at the same time clear unimitable sound.

While I am not a developer, I can tell you that what you're asking for is almost certainly not going to be easy. It may *sound* easy, but the changes that adding six additional layers to the synth would bring would be a ton of work for Plogue (or any other dev). It's almost like developing another synth, as there'd have to be some serious "back to the drawing board" to add a mode like that.

You can immediately layer tracks in your DAW of choice. I know I can build multi-layered OPS7 in Logic and Live, and I'd imagine it's easy to do in most every other DAW. I mean, email Plogue and ask them for TX816 mode. There's no harm in asking. I just think using the tools you already have that will get you where you want make more sense. I think that's what gentleclock was trying to say. I think.

Side note: if you're interested in hyper-layered FM hardware, check out the Kodamo EssenceFM. It's a monster layer machine. For hardware, it's not cheap, but it looks like a pretty amazing deal, and a TX816 fan would probably love it. I'd love to have one, but there are plenty of reasons I can't. Like, fifteen hundred reasons.

[tristan-]

Let's let Plogue decide for themselves what's best regardless of naysayers. I sent them my suggestions. Most of the users who will enjoy it, are the users who enjoy MODX and Montage, not forumites which are the minority.

So it's not good FOR YOU, and YOU will not use it. OK. Good for you!

[nominil]

Let's let Plogue decide for themselves what's best regardless of naysayers. I sent them my suggestions. Most of the users who will enjoy it, are the users who enjoy MODX and Montage, not forumites which are the minority.

So it's not good FOR YOU, and YOU will not use it. OK. Good for you!

Never said it wouldn’t be cool and encouraged you to email Plogue soooooo… best of luck.

[trusampler]

Anyone know what MSB/LSB Numbers are needed in order for the pprogram changes to work properly?

Also, can we change and lock the DAC settings, for all patches, vs. it changing each time we change a patch? thnx

[davidv@plogue]

Anyone know what MSB/LSB Numbers are needed in order for the pprogram changes to work properly?

In case you are using VST3, program changes are AWOL on there, there is just no sensible way to recreate that in VST3 from what we receive from the DAW. It should work in VST2/AU/AAX

Also, can we change and lock the DAC settings, for all patches, vs. it changing each time we change a patch? thnx

If you set whatever you need and hit "save as template", then most of those settings should be your next defaults.

[yul]

I bought this plug and am very happy. Been using FM8 for over a decade but only sparingly.
Being pretty good with FM I can now see a big difference between both. They both are very strong in their own way.

My first impressions with OPS7 (despite the limited demo) was that the sound was quite clear and crisp. Very clean with some interesting artifacts in extreme ranges (I was not used to hearing these with FM8) . It was however a bit constrained compared to FM8 feature wise. I then realized once I bought it that is strenght is in its simplicity and strong core sound (i.e. good DX emulation).

Everything works perfectly (including portamento) and that is great because the simple and few features available are important. Having worked with FM8 for so long, the "DX7" scheme really is simpler and the sound is top notch (80s, 90s style obviously).

FM8 is more of a dark night and it's amazing too. It's a bit different sounding with advanced features. It can obviously sound very similar 90% of the time.

I will probably move to Arturia next time. I "stressed tested" it against OPS7 and even at extreme modulation values, the sounds are in line between both synths. So same engine but Arturia has a few more features going beyond the OPS7.

[SebAV]

I’m still not ok with the UI. So I stand by PX7 for now. Sound is not as authentic but the UI (except browser) is far better to me

[digitalboytn]

I’m still not ok with the UI. So I stand by PX7 for now. Sound is not as authentic but the UI (except browser) is far better to me

It's always important to get the priorities right

Don't worry about the sound

[peterdh]

Very nice sound, lots of free DX7 patches on the net. Bought this already cheap plug-in on sale for half the price. Feels like theft

[yul]

Any suggestions on managing my user patches?
The system preset folder seems a bit too far down I'd love to be able to specify my own folder.

Maybe the only answer is to create a folder in the system folder?
The save option always defaults to that folder anyways which is not too bad.

I feel I am more inclined to use the SYX/Classic patch management anyways (I stick with basics).
The 32 preset system in a bank seems very intuitive (never had a DX7 but many gear from that period had the same).

Moving from patch to patch with the arrow is really nifty too.
I wish I could do the same with the extended mode.

What do you think?

[fmr]

I’m still not ok with the UI. So I stand by PX7 for now. Sound is not as authentic but the UI (except browser) is far better to me

It's always important to get the priorities right

Don't worry about the sound

The "sound" depends on his abilities to program it, don't you think?

PX7 is a very good FM synth, and if the GUI is better (I think it is, by far) it will allow him to go deeper in programming sounds (which I also agree).

[Examigan]

I wasn't sure if anyone mentioned about this collection in the past 44 pages, but here it is just in case:
http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/yamaha_dx7/dx7_patches.html

[NikkiA]

PX7 was discontinued last year, there was supposed to be a new FM synth by Propellerheads to replace it, but I don't see any sign that it was released. But,PX7 isn't really an option for anyone 'new' at this point.

[digitalboytn]

I’m still not ok with the UI. So I stand by PX7 for now. Sound is not as authentic but the UI (except browser) is far better to me

It's always important to get the priorities right

Don't worry about the sound

The "sound" depends on his abilities to program it, don't you think?

No...

His ability to program the synth is irrelevant because the sound engine is always going to be what it is

[gentleclockdivider]

PX7 was discontinued last year, there was supposed to be a new FM synth by Propellerheads to replace it, but I don't see any sign that it was released.

It’s called algoritm , adsr envelopes only

https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... /algoritm/