KVR Audio

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:37 pm

zvenx wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:06 pm I like Fabfilter's GUIs in theory, they look good, but in working with them they are not my favourites at all as I definitely do not find them intuitive.

rsp

they're a pain in the ass to work with
timeless 3 especially

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:46 pm

antic604 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:20 pm So, true to title of the topic - are there any leaks concerning actual NEW FEATURES of Cubase 12?

Sounds like Steinberg are trying to keep things very quiet. AFAI can tell the main thrust of C12 is
A) It's compatible with Win11
B) No dongle.

A) being pretty important
B) Utterly unimportant, and likely to cause huge hassles unless they're really lucky...but this is Steinberg we're talking about.

They must be working on some other stuff I guess, because I for one am not going to pay the 2-version upgrade fee for simply getting a host that's Win11 compliant and f**king a dongle that works seamlessly and interferes with my workflow in no way at all. I can simply choose to not have anything to do with Win11

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Dunno - they must have some bells and whistles to sell it surely?

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:51 pm

Didn't they also announce it will be Apple Silicon Native?
rsp

Synthack · Post by **Synthack** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:48 pm

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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:50 pm

I think they did so if not directly inadvertently, by admitting native silicone cubendo will not support vst2 plugins.

Plus stuff like this

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... 18?u=zvenx

and more importantly

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... 76?u=zvenx

I am 100% sure.

rsp

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:25 pm

kritikon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:46 pm Sounds like Steinberg are trying to keep things very quiet. AFAI can tell the main thrust of C12 is
A) It's compatible with Win11
B) No dongle.

zvenx wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:51 pm Didn't they also announce it will be Apple Silicon Native?

Those have been known for weeks.

I'm asking about actual features like workflow improvements, new devices, GUI clean-up, etc.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:34 pm

Those who know, can't say.
rsp

felis · Post by **felis** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:15 am

I feel like it's the calm before the storm. I'm not sure how much new stuff I'm expecting in 12.
I think they'll have their hands full with the licensing.
I'd take a small featured update for a small price, and be happy if ditching the dongle went smoothly though.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:46 am

calm before the storm for sure.

I'll be happy if it's stable. That's all.
Would be nice if one of these re-writes involved a stable audio engine.
So one could do - anything without the audio stream glitching. Like most other DAWs.

Necron · Post by **Necron** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:44 am

the following point is important for me

Beat Designer in der Lower Zone (please!)

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:40 am

Necron wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:44 am the following point is important for me

Beat Designer in der Lower Zone (please!)

All the midi devices really deserve a do over. Guessing here but I think it is reasonable scoring functions will get some attention given the Dorico updates.

fese · Post by **fese** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:46 am

After watching the videos fir Dorico 4, I definitely want the jump bar in Cubase 12:

I suggested something similar one the SB forums, an integrated command line for Cubase for power users who prefer not to use the mouse. This comes close.

Also, the Dorico UI looks so much better that Cubase, much clearer, the fonts more legible.

digitallysane · Post by **digitallysane** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:48 am

kritikon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:46 pmAFAI can tell the main thrust of C12 is
A) It's compatible with Win11

Cubase 11 has been officially compatible with W11 for some time.

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:03 am

kritikon wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:46 pm
antic604 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:20 pm So, true to title of the topic - are there any leaks concerning actual NEW FEATURES of Cubase 12?
Sounds like Steinberg are trying to keep things very quiet. AFAI can tell the main thrust of C12 is
A) It's compatible with Win11
B) No dongle.

A) being pretty important
B) Utterly unimportant, and likely to cause huge hassles unless they're really lucky...but this is Steinberg we're talking about.

They must be working on some other stuff I guess, because I for one am not going to pay the 2-version upgrade fee for simply getting a host that's Win11 compliant and f**king a dongle that works seamlessly and interferes with my workflow in no way at all. I can simply choose to not have anything to do with Win11 .

Dunno - they must have some bells and whistles to sell it surely?

How the hell is that unimportant ? Maybe to you, but it's kinda the whole point of C12 , because how long have they relied on the dongle for protection , and now they are dropping it. I'd say that's pretty damn important.

I, for one, am glad it's going, they are a damn annoying feature, and i'm glad i wont be using one from here on out.

felis · Post by **felis** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:28 pm

chk071 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:25 pm Regarding the new licensing, I found a useful page with a list of the Steinberg software which uses the new licensing system, which will be updated whenever another software is using it. https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... -Licensing

The free Dorico SE 4 can already be activated using the new system, I just did so.

I just tried it and it failed, but it does say that the servers are currently down.

Used Download assistant, installed the program, double clicked on it, and that's about as far as it goes without having an activated license.

When it does show up, does it show up in both places? - elicenser and the new Activation Manager?

Cubase 12 leaked on Steinberg's site