KVR Audio

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:20 am

I'm curious if the new P & E processor setup in the Intel alder lake chips is going to be a hassle to get running well for a DAW workstation. Windows and many DAWs don't do super well with sorting out core usage and I don't wanna have problems out of the gate. I can live with having the older version chip if it means better stability and it will still be a big step up. I have a build based off the new chip and the old chip, but I have to order tomorrow so I can write it off on my taxes. If anyone has a build running around a new Alder lake processor I'd love to hear how it has been performing so far as well as what saw you use.

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:10 am

Check viewtopic.php?f=16&t=574244&p=8284100#p8284100

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:49 am

I built it after talking to some early adopters. Even if it takes a bit of time to make all my software play nice with the new thread system, I'm sure it'll be fine after a few updates.

dentaku · Post by **dentaku** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:43 pm

Ah_Dziz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:49 am I built it after talking to some early adopters. Even if it takes a bit of time to make all my software play nice with the new thread system, I'm sure it'll be fine after a few updates.

What software do you use?
I'm still waiting for more Ableton Live 11 users to try it out on the new 12th GEN processors before building a new desktop.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:28 am

I use Cubase (stayed on v9 even though my license is up to date) Bitwig for sound design. Maschine for quick sketching. My parts will be here tomorrow. I have an old Ableton license I could try. Or if there's a demo I'll see how it does if you like. Probably next week before I'm actually built though.

dentaku · Post by **dentaku** » Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:02 pm

There's also a free 90day trial of Ableton 11 you can download if your license doesn't work for Live 11.
I hope your new computer works well and is fast.

arrakeen · Post by **arrakeen** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:52 pm

Update from Scan on DDR5 memory.

https://youtu.be/IaYMRvctZNU

kingozrecords · Post by **kingozrecords** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:17 pm

arrakeen wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:52 pm Update from Scan on DDR5 memory.

https://youtu.be/IaYMRvctZNU

Useful info thanks

dentaku · Post by **dentaku** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:25 am

Here's someone else who is doing well with a 12th GEN processor.
https://www.presetpatch.com/articles/Be ... ci-Resolve

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:53 pm

Everything is running great. Definitely kicks my old system's buns.

Jim Roseberry · Post by **Jim Roseberry** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:19 pm

12900k is an amazing DAW performer.
It bests the 5950x in both single-core and multi-core performance.
You can do things like run Helix Native at 1ms total round-trip latency (zero glitches)... if your audio interface allows

M32 · Post by **M32** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:01 am

Switched from a 10900KF to a 12900K. Ableton live reports 32 percent when my default project is idle. buffer size 64 samples, 5ms latency.

On the 10th gen it was 24 percent, but with a buffer size of 128 and 7.5 ms latency.

(same cooling, ddr4 ram and peripherals)

I've yet to do some more real-world stress testing. In practice the difference doesn't seem as big as benchmarks etc made me expect. But i also think i kinda won the 'silicon lottery' with that particular 10900KF.

maybe it's the tradeoff between 2 performance cores vs 8 efficiency cores, but the 12 seems to get a lot hotter on all-core stress tests

i suspect currently Live doesn't know the difference between E and P-cores, or maybe just uses the P ones?

But honestly both these i9's shred. It takes a lot of vst's, tracks and realtime I/O to even make a bit of a dent.

curious about the rumored win11 performance improvement, but i don't dare test the waters yet.

r0mi7 · Post by **r0mi7** » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:34 pm

Windows 11 does have big.Little cpu architecture optimisations. And so far Windows 11 has been better with Intel. Definately worth checking out. I am also planning to upgrade to 12700K with windows 11 because of the optimisations.

Jim Roseberry · Post by **Jim Roseberry** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:59 pm

The 12900k needs robust cooling.
If you used a NH-U14s with the 10900k, it's not enough for the 12900k.

With proper configuration, you can run Cinebench and see the 12900k mops the floor with the 10900k (both single and multi-core performance).
The 12900k bests the 5950x... both single and multi-core performance.

The latest AMD and Intel CPUs have rapid/substantial temperature changes (under load).
It's more complex (vs. 10900k) to get the build extremely quiet.

legendCNCD · Post by **legendCNCD** » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:56 pm

Noctua NH-D15 should be ok it seems

New Intel CPUs and DAW performance