Desktop vs Laptop
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Except none of those things apply to most gaming laptops, so kindly pick your mic up and put it back on its stand before you go home.
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- KVRAF
- 7873 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Trackpad - merely personal preference. Personally, my dodgy wrists thank me for using trackpads rather than mouses (except at work, where I have little choice). That can only be subjective to anyone.
Ports - Definitely you get more as standard on desktops, but it's really not uncommon to get 4 on a laptop nowadays. If you need more then 4 USBs for your music, I'd say you're doing something wrong, and I'm a h/w guy rather than s/w. Why would I need 6 or 8 USB ports?
Cleaning - You being serious? WTF do you do with your laptops? Use a tissue, man!
Upgrades - yeah you got that one. However, I suspect most just buy a new desktop rather than upgrade everything in it. I always did. Definitely easier to upgrade drives etc though. Internal soundcards - are they even still a thing? I thought most had external sound devices now even with desktops?
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- KVRAF
- 4816 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Yes.
Google 'laptop ergonomics Michael L' and my dislike of laptop ergonomics are the third result
The other 4,180,000 results are people who agree with me that laptops have poor ergonomics
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 15955 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
So that's 4.1 million out of 7 billion who agree with you, or 0.05% of the population. The silent majority clearly believe, as I do, that laptop ergonomics are brilliant.
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- KVRAF
- 4816 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 5 Sep, 2019
Trackpad, I don't like itkritikon wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:26 amTrackpad - merely personal preference. Personally, my dodgy wrists thank me for using trackpads rather than mouses (except at work, where I have little choice). That can only be subjective to anyone.
Ports - Definitely you get more as standard on desktops, but it's really not uncommon to get 4 on a laptop nowadays. If you need more then 4 USBs for your music, I'd say you're doing something wrong, and I'm a h/w guy rather than s/w. Why would I need 6 or 8 USB ports?
Cleaning - You being serious? WTF do you do with your laptops? Use a tissue, man!
Upgrades - yeah you got that one. However, I suspect most just buy a new desktop rather than upgrade everything in it. I always did. Definitely easier to upgrade drives etc though. Internal soundcards - are they even still a thing? I thought most had external sound devices now even with desktops?
feels slow
For my Studio PC USB Ports
-Mouse
-Tipping Keyboard
-88 Hammerkeys Keyboard
-Panoram Nektar
-Maschine Jam
-Maschine MK2
-Sometimes a USB Stick for Backups
-Externel HDD
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6-8 Ports)
On my new Laptop I got 2 USB 3.0 A ports and 1 USB C port
-Mouse (For me, a Trackpad is just if I have nothing other)
-Midi-Controller (Key)
-USB-C Hub with 3 Ports
-USB- Drive
-External Drive for Samples (again thanks to the poor upgradebilty of the Laptop)
-Midi Controler (Mackie Style )
(2 -5 depending on setup)
Cleaning in terms of inside the laptop (When did you last time clean the fans of yours ? On my PC I do this every 6 months ...5 min of work
for my Laptop 30 min because of the screwless cliped what every designs )
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 5 Sep, 2019
Total Agree here
German ArbStättV says :
https://www.komnet.nrw.de/_sitetools/dialog/3258
-Laptops are problematic
- Monitor is not turnable/adjustable
-Keyboard can't be separated from Monitor to get the perfect distance between Eyes and Display
-Should be uses with a Dockinstation ,Mouse , Keyboard (extern) to become same standard in Ergonomic than a Desktop PC.
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- KVRAF
- 7873 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I understand not liking trackpads - I don't like mouse. But that's spurious - you're using 2 ports for keyboard/mouse on the desktop that you don't even need on the laptop because it's already onboard. The extra 2 ports needed on a desktop are an obvious limitation not a reason to crow about them being better. So minus 2 ports already.Polomo123 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:54 am
Trackpad, I don't like it
feels slow
For my Studio PC USB Ports
-Mouse
-Tipping Keyboard
-88 Hammerkeys Keyboard
-Panoram Nektar
-Maschine Jam
-Maschine MK2
-Sometimes a USB Stick for Backups
-Externel HDD
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6-8 Ports)
On my new Laptop I got 2 USB 3.0 A ports and 1 USB C port
-Mouse (For me, a Trackpad is just if I have nothing other)
-Midi-Controller (Key)
-USB-C Hub with 3 Ports
-USB- Drive
-External Drive for Samples (again thanks to the poor upgradebilty of the Laptop)
-Midi Controler (Mackie Style )
(2 -5 depending on setup)
Cleaning in terms of inside the laptop (When did you last time clean the fans of yours ? On my PC I do this every 6 months ...5 min of work
for my Laptop 30 min because of the screwless cliped what every designs )
-88 Hammerkeys Keyboard
-Panoram Nektar
perfectly reasonable.
-Maschine Jam
-Maschine MK2
Really? You're basically using the same tool twice. Sounds like making up reasons to have a go at laptops. No way you NEED 2 of the same sequencers. So minus another port for confabulation.
-Sometimes a USB Stick for Backups
C'mon mate, stop making it up. No way you're making backups on the fly while you're recording. You're just not. Nobody does. And you already styated you have a USB hub on your laptop. Minus another port for making it up again.
-Externel HDD
Possible but unlikely. Most I know that use samples heavily use them on internal drives - external slow for that sort of thing. External HDD for backups etc yes. Again not while you're recording etc. Minus another one for making it up.
So...you actually need 3 ports. And you use a hub with your laptop. Use a hub with your desktop. Same difference, same lack of effecting your workflow and performance.
See, I can understand preference for desktops. There are definite advantages. But just making shit up doesn't wash at all.
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
I still cant imagine primarily using a laptop for music.
I still know people who cant imagine using a desktop.
I still know people who cant imagine using a desktop.
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- KVRAF
- 4816 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I know a guy who uses:
- desktop + Logic for production
- laptop + Ableton /Push for performing.
I think that's a good use of the strength of each: ergonomics & portability
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
Yea, that^ seems the most logical, to me, also.
Strengths and weaknesses and whatnot.
Theres some reality bending posts in this thread.
Strengths and weaknesses and whatnot.
Theres some reality bending posts in this thread.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
They're not even remotely comparable. They complement each other.
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 5 Sep, 2019
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-Maschine Jam
-Maschine MK2
(On the Picture is a Maschine Studio and the Jam side by side to see the difference )
Maschine and Jam are different things.
The Maschine is a finger drumming Pad, the Jam is a Step sequencer, I like both from time to time
The Maschine is more for dynamic playing, the JAM is more for static.
(like antice604 wrote They complement each other in other things )
And the wonderful thing about my Desktop. I don't have to manage which one I like better. And have still 4 free Port
-Sometimes a USB Stick for Backups
I lost my whole work when I was 19 Years
a whole 80Gb HDD back in the days since then I became a bit paranoid with Backups
I'm not making anything up , I'm just the 0.1% paranoid musicians with bad experience without a proper Backup then and now a bit oversensitive when it comes to these things
Also, USB Devices are not unlimited plug and unplug . USB 1.0 had only 500 cycles later 2.0 1500 (any many of my Cables are only 2.0 )
I normally do every hour a Backup, so on a normal day this would be 10 in and outs . In half a year, this Port would just break (with your style of work and my preferences )
-Externel HDD
-Maschine Jam
-Maschine MK2
You just disqualified your self with this statement, you have no clue what you're talking about
(On the Picture is a Maschine Studio and the Jam side by side to see the difference )Maschine and Jam are different things.
The Maschine is a finger drumming Pad, the Jam is a Step sequencer, I like both from time to time
The Maschine is more for dynamic playing, the JAM is more for static.
(like antice604 wrote They complement each other in other things )
And the wonderful thing about my Desktop. I don't have to manage which one I like better. And have still 4 free Port
-Sometimes a USB Stick for Backups
-Nope.
I lost my whole work when I was 19 Years
a whole 80Gb HDD back in the days since then I became a bit paranoid with Backups
I'm not making anything up , I'm just the 0.1% paranoid musicians with bad experience without a proper Backup then and now a bit oversensitive when it comes to these things
Also, USB Devices are not unlimited plug and unplug . USB 1.0 had only 500 cycles later 2.0 1500 (any many of my Cables are only 2.0 )
I normally do every hour a Backup, so on a normal day this would be 10 in and outs . In half a year, this Port would just break (with your style of work and my preferences )
-Externel HDD
-even my KOMPLETE 13 Ultimate requires a 2 TB HDD alone.
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- Banned
- 32 posts since 27 Jan, 2022
Latest laptops are so powerful. For instance, even Rayzen 7 5700U has up to 4.3GHz. 8 CPUs and 16 threads. I think this would handle anything. But yeah, 15 inches suck.
