Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects

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Rickskii wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pm Sonible proximity:EQ, entropy:EQ and frei:raum all advertised as native.
Where you see this? When I log into my Sonible account and download proximity & entropy, they deliver the same versions I already have (1.0.2).

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Poking around today and found the following free plugins are M1 compatible:

UrsaDSP Lagrange: granular delay - https://ursadsp.com/#lagrange

Soundhack ++phasevocoder (also suggests the entire catalog will be updated to M1) https://www.soundhack.com/2021/11/sound ... 1-00-macos

Non-free, Imaginando VS now offers an M1 native version.
https://www.imaginando.pt/products/vs-v ... /downloads

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Soundhack? no way. I thought these were abandoned
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Ploki wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:10 pm Soundhack? no way. I thought these were abandoned
nah. they were never abandoned. he's kept all the plug in packages updated. they've never not worked on any system i've owned. spectral shapers, pvocKit and the freeware bundles are all well supported.

the standalone soundhack app is another story. i think it's so old it's been left behind.

check the site

https://www.soundhack.com

also worth mentioning that tom erbe has developed several eurrack modules with makenoise. they're all quite good.

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PSPaudioware's L'otary v.2.1.0 is now native.

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sqigls wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:28 am Techivation De-Esser is native
it's at v1.1.6 but i think the previous version was native also...
https://techivation.com/t-de-esser-pro/
According to their site, it is not:
Mac OS X 10.14 (Mojave) – macOS 11.2.2 (Big Sur) as 32/64bit VST, VST3 and AU, and 64-bit AAX, Intel, and M1 Rosetta 2 Macs

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Rickskii wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pm Sonible proximity:EQ, entropy:EQ and frei:raum all advertised as native.

NB. Proceed with caution with the above, crashed Ableton instantly on opening and don't show as VST2 on my M1 MacBook Pro.
This means they are not native. Ableton doesn't bridge Intel VST2 to native. These are older plugins. When their website says "Universal Binary" this refers to the fact that the VST2 is a combined 32/64-bit binary. "Universal Binary" can refer to any of a combination of x86, x64, and PowerPC. "Universal Binary 2" only refers to a combined x64 / ARM binary.
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teilo wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:43 pm
Rickskii wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:58 pm Sonible proximity:EQ, entropy:EQ and frei:raum all advertised as native.

NB. Proceed with caution with the above, crashed Ableton instantly on opening and don't show as VST2 on my M1 MacBook Pro.
This means they are not native. Ableton doesn't bridge Intel VST2 to native. These are older plugins. When their website says "Universal Binary" this refers to the fact that the VST2 is a combined 32/64-bit binary. "Universal Binary" can refer either to any of a combination of x86, x64, and PowerPC. "Universal Binary 2" only refers to a combined x64 / ARM binary.
I have been trying to hide as I realise I messed up. Apologies…..Teilo you know exactly where I went wrong lol. However in my defence, kind of anyway, I received new version alerts at plugin boutique and then went to the page and noticed the “universal binary” thing.

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teilo wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:07 pm
sqigls wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:28 am Techivation De-Esser is native
it's at v1.1.6 but i think the previous version was native also...
https://techivation.com/t-de-esser-pro/
According to their site, it is not:
Mac OS X 10.14 (Mojave) – macOS 11.2.2 (Big Sur) as 32/64bit VST, VST3 and AU, and 64-bit AAX, Intel, and M1 Rosetta 2 Macs
You might need to refresh your browser?
Mac OS X 10.11 (OS X El Capitan) – macOS 11.6 (Big Sur) as 64bit VST, VST3, and AU, and 64-bit AAX, Intel, and Native M1
In Bitwig it says "ARM64 (native)"

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sqigls wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:01 pm
Mac OS X 10.11 (OS X El Capitan) – macOS 11.6 (Big Sur) as 64bit VST, VST3, and AU, and 64-bit AAX, Intel, and Native M1
In Bitwig it says "ARM64 (native)"
I was looking at the T-De-Esser page, not the Pro page. Weird website. That page shows all three plugins, with specs listed on the bottom that conflict with the Pro page. So I'll only put in Pro and Plus.
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Sonic Academy Kick 2 "beta" is now available.

"...KICK 2 v1.1.5 beta bringing support for M1 Native ARM mode as well as VST3 is now publicly available into customers accounts..."

The list also misses Sonic Academy's ANA, which is native since v2.0.98

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Liquidsonics - all Plugins Public Beta Release 2. https://www.liquidsonics.com/downloads/public-preview/

Fixes the issue in Logic Pro running on Big Sur crashing when launching the app.

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davestretch wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:25 am Liquidsonics - all Plugins Public Beta Release 2. https://www.liquidsonics.com/downloads/public-preview/

Fixes the issue in Logic Pro running on Big Sur crashing when launching the app.
Already listed. I won't update from current status until finals are out.

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davestretch wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:25 am Liquidsonics - all Plugins Public Beta Release 2. https://www.liquidsonics.com/downloads/public-preview/

So according to Liquidsonics pace for AS is still pre-release... :(

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tajika wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 7:19 pm
davestretch wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:25 am Liquidsonics - all Plugins Public Beta Release 2. https://www.liquidsonics.com/downloads/public-preview/
So according to Liquidsonics pace for AS is still pre-release... :(
It doesn't matter. You don't need a native iLok Manager or Pace extensions to use Pace with native plugins.

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