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- KVRian
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- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
Feeling a bit cinematic this morning. Really rough and quick writing/headphone mix, but I think there's something there to be developed?
(✖╭╮✖) v7 | I think this is it?
(✖╭╮✖) v6 | new ending | new elements | getting close
(✖╭╮✖) v3
(✖╭╮✖) OG
(✖╭╮✖) Conception
(✖╭╮✖) v7 | I think this is it?
(✖╭╮✖) v6 | new ending | new elements | getting close
(✖╭╮✖) v3
(✖╭╮✖) OG
(✖╭╮✖) Conception
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- KVRAF
- 1611 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK
Loads of really great ideas there - particularly all the melodic fragments and sound combos...beginning was magical.
One aspect that slightly concerned me - you've sort of combined two different approaches here...
1) Your recent melodic, more experimental, quite dissonant style
2) More conventional chord based sections with very clear underlying traditional harmonies.
Yes they can definitely flow effectively from one to the other in the same piece, but it's a tricky move to put together successfully as the more dissonant sections can just sound 'out of place' after those chord-based stretches if you're not careful....
Some sort of transition is usually called for to let the listener's ear get used to the change if that makes sense?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
Yeah, that makes sense complete sense. And listening again, now a few hours later, I can really hear what you're talking about.ChameleonMusic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:17 pmOne aspect that slightly concerned me - you've sort of combined two different approaches here...
1) Your recent melodic, more experimental, quite dissonant style
2) More conventional chord based sections with very clear underlying traditional harmonies.
Yes they can definitely flow effectively from one to the other in the same piece, but it's a tricky move to put together successfully as the more dissonant sections can just sound 'out of place' after those chord-based stretches if you're not careful....
Some sort of transition is usually called for to let the listener's ear get used to the change if that makes sense?
I also hear some nasty resonances in spots:/
Thanks, this is helpful
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada
I think I may want to experiment with the panning, to bring focus on the sounds that call for clarity, such as the piano, the string, some mumbling radio-like spoken words at ~75% mark, while leaving other stuff back in the scene... But of course you may not want to trust my mixing taste 'cause you're way better at shaping sounds!! Love the unique textures.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
I think you're exactly right. I've been working on it for the past 4 hours, and most of the time was spent getting clarity and position for the different voices. Probably have an update in a few days.shawshawraw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:10 pm I think I may want to experiment with the panning, to bring focus on the sounds that call for clarity, such as the piano, the string, some mumbling radio-like spoken words at ~75% mark, while leaving other stuff back in the scene... But of course you may not want to trust my mixing taste 'cause you're way better at shaping sounds!! Love the unique textures.
One thing I've been trying in the past few tracks I've worked on is using more layering. This one I'm want use layering to get that wall-of-sound feeling in certain parts. It's been a challenge for me.
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- Banned
- 142 posts since 8 Jan, 2022 from Великая Россия
I'm sure you'll find all the resonances in spots and other misbalanced things in the balance, as time comes for it )
As for the current arrangemt stage, like mr ChameleonMusic has said,
I think (basing on my own taste only) it'd be better to split conventional harmonical parts and experimental parts,
and give more conventional things like that pulsating bass,
which I'd make the basis of the track, like meat in a dish )
I'd also let the experimental parts be as transitions, like spice, but not like garnish.
Your previous track that I commented (somtin-somtin), was full of experimental flow, and once you've dove into the flow, you enjoy the flow, without feeling the ground, as there's no such.
But here, as you presented also the ground (conventional parts), the feeling totally changes, and it's like another type of entertainment, where you want more ground.
It's like diving vs chilling on the beach - the sea is in both cases, but once you stepped on the beach, you want to take off the diving suit and to have some cocktails )
But nevertheless it was worth listening and tl:dr:commenting )
As for the current arrangemt stage, like mr ChameleonMusic has said,
I think (basing on my own taste only) it'd be better to split conventional harmonical parts and experimental parts,
and give more conventional things like that pulsating bass,
which I'd make the basis of the track, like meat in a dish )
I'd also let the experimental parts be as transitions, like spice, but not like garnish.
Your previous track that I commented (somtin-somtin), was full of experimental flow, and once you've dove into the flow, you enjoy the flow, without feeling the ground, as there's no such.
But here, as you presented also the ground (conventional parts), the feeling totally changes, and it's like another type of entertainment, where you want more ground.
It's like diving vs chilling on the beach - the sea is in both cases, but once you stepped on the beach, you want to take off the diving suit and to have some cocktails )
But nevertheless it was worth listening and tl:dr:commenting )
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
BTW: Does anyone use Hive from U-He? I've had it for a while but never used it. WOW!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
Can't upload things correctly:/
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Does anyone have strategies they use to fill the high frequencies when you're not using percussion? Is it necessary?
I threw in kind of a shaker thing here but…
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Does anyone have strategies they use to fill the high frequencies when you're not using percussion? Is it necessary?
I threw in kind of a shaker thing here but…
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada
It's got a very different vibe! Things are "in my face" and I pleasantly enjoyed the density.
Synth are thick and tasty I may want to try some Pultec trick on rhythmic pulses to let the low end drive more air - if that works as I imagine!
Synth are thick and tasty I may want to try some Pultec trick on rhythmic pulses to let the low end drive more air - if that works as I imagine!
- KVRist
- 392 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
That's a good idea! I'll try it.shawshawraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:45 pm I may want to try some Pultec trick on rhythmic pulses to let the low end drive more air - if that works as I imagine!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
- KVRian
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- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
I replaced the file, now with Pultec trick. Worked like a charm. Thanks again!shawshawraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:45 pm I may want to try some Pultec trick on rhythmic pulses to let the low end drive more air - if that works as I imagine!
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada
Yes!!! I can get it right at times
Actually this pinned my focus to the rhythm, and fed my anticipations in a good way. Maybe it's a little too much during the last 1/3, but that's all up to mood and taste!
- KVRian
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- 1276 posts since 18 May, 2021
Yeah, I'm going to try it in parallel, so I can mix to taste.shawshawraw wrote: ↑Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:20 pm Maybe it's a little too much during the last 1/3, but that's all up to mood and taste!
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