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[OneOfManyPauls]

You could just do it with 3 instances of Pigments into 3 instances of the plugin you want to affect (instead of 3 into 1) if you can't get it to work.

using a container/host plugin like FL's free minihost modular within the DAW might be an option too.

added: can also use Unify to do it via a combobox to combine the output of multiple pigments instances - can have the target synth in that or just have the combined output be the output of a single midi effect layer, keeping it neater for the receiving synth.

[Musical Gym]

I think a separate instance of Pigments on each of four daw tracks driving either itself, other plugins, and/or hardware synths might be able to come fairly close to what KSP does...especially since Pigments can be either an arp or a sequencer in each instance/track.

Just tried this in Studio One Pro 5 and Cakewalk bB.

I have Riffer but I like the way Pigments works in this way.

Thanks @Musical Gym

Glad it helped.

[Musical Gym]

You could just do it with 3 instances of Pigments into 3 instances of the plugin you want to affect (instead of 3 into 1) if you can't get it to work.

using a container/host plugin like FL's free minihost modular within the DAW might be an option too.

Thanks for tip, I've been getting back into FL.

Playing factory sequences together is also interesting.

[Fraggle]

Not every DAW can route Pigments like the guy does in the video -- He is using Bitwig - Ableton cannot do that. I wonder how many DAWs can ??

what can't be done in ableton? on the receiving synth track can set it to use the midi output of the pigments track, and can create midi tracks that do nothing but route midi from pigments to whatever other midi track is desired - so could have 3 instances of pigments routing into one instance of another synth if desired.

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Pigments MIDI out is not treated in Ableton like an Arp -- You can see the difference when you compare it to the Cthulhu picture - on the Serum MIDI track there is another drop down menu that says Cthulhu, but that is not available in the same routing set up using Pigments

[OneOfManyPauls]

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Pigments MIDI out is not treated in Ableton like an Arp -- You can see the difference when you compare it to the Cthulhu picture - on the Serum MIDI track there is another drop down menu that says Cthulhu, but that is not available in the same routing set up using Pigments

I actually did it before I posted originally

image shows omni pulling midi from pigments 1 instance, and also 3 tracks taking midi from the 3 pigments instances and "pushing" the midi to the omni track. in this case, omni will sound 2x pigments1 combined with pigments2 and pigments3,

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[Fraggle]

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Pigments MIDI out is not treated in Ableton like an Arp -- You can see the difference when you compare it to the Cthulhu picture - on the Serum MIDI track there is another drop down menu that says Cthulhu, but that is not available in the same routing set up using Pigments

I actually did it before I posted originally

image shows omni pulling midi from pigments 1 instance, and also 3 tracks taking midi from the 3 pigments instances and "pushing" the midi to the omni track. in this case, omni will sound 2x pigments1 combined with pigments2 and pigments3,

pigments.jpg

HI

I think it must be something to do with Omnisphere rather than Ableton as I tried copying your photo but as you see Serum doesn't offer the same routing.

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[OneOfManyPauls]

I think it must be something to do with Omnisphere rather than Ableton as I tried copying your photo but as you see Serum doesn't offer the same routing.

Sanity check: audio units doesn't support this vs vst which does.

[Fraggle]

I think it must be something to do with Omnisphere rather than Ableton as I tried copying your photo but as you see Serum doesn't offer the same routing.

Sanity check: audio units doesn't support this vs vst which does.

lol 'sanity check' --- thanks -- I didn't know about that difference between AU and VST

[gondii]

So after seeing it pop up here and there, I finally checked out Playbeat by Audiomodern a few days ago and I actually really like it. It's a very intuitive yet flexible drum sequencer, but I think they have the "controlled randomization" down completely. I'm having loads of fun with it in combination with the Bassline Generator.

[dopet]

The new updates to playbeat have been great. I like the new random sample loading in V3 (even if not as robust as say XO or Atlas) . I’ve gone back to using playbeat as the drum sequencer brain to drive other drum vsti.

[Musical Gym]

I'm revisiting this one. Alot of fun and potential.
https://hgsounds.com/product/midi-looper-for-kontakt/
On sale till Feb. 6.
Group Buy going on now also.

[bharris22]

I just learned about this, and it sounds very interesting: https://contextsequencer.wordpress.com/.

Unfortunately, it is in PureData, about which I know nothing. I am willing to learn, but can't seem to get either the 32 bit or 64 bit Windows versions running. I have sent an e-mail to the developer for some assistance, but if anyone is interested, and has luck getting it started, please let me know .

[dopet]

I just learned about this, and it sounds very interesting: https://contextsequencer.wordpress.com/.

Unfortunately, it is in PureData, about which I know nothing. I am willing to learn, but can't seem to get either the 32 bit or 64 bit Windows versions running. I have sent an e-mail to the developer for some assistance, but if anyone is interested, and has luck getting it started, please let me know .

Cool find! I bookmarked the website….

Don’t know much about PD, but I just downloaded a Largo Vsti randomizer built in PD yesterday (found in the KVR forums) and after downloading the ‘hosting program’ to run it in, it worked fine (I don’t know much about this side of it, so forgive me for my made up vocabulary!) it wasn’t the same download as this one appears to be though…

I’ll put this on the list to try…. Though I just solved the Studio One / Wojta 22 vst midi routing riddle (Thanks KVR and @zincT!!) so my time has been used for finally exploring that.

[bharris22]

Strangely, I think I have been able to get this working on my 32 bit tablet, but not my 64 bit tablet - at least there is sound coming out of the examples, with no errors. I have not tried midi output yet, but will try to do so in the next few days.

If anyone needs help or additional information about how I finally got this working on a 32 bit system, just let me know. Conversely, if anyone has ideas about getting it running on a 64 bit system, please help .

[Musical Gym]

I just downloaded a Largo Vsti randomizer built in PD yesterday (found in the KVR forums) and after downloading the ‘hosting program’ to run it in, it worked fine

Can you share links?