The future of Geist 2

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zvenx
KVRAF
11114 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:14 pm

Exactly,, and why I wouldn't want Geist in either my precious RMX or XO :)
Now if Tremor sound making tools came into RMX.



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Synthack
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Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:17 pm

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Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:55 pm

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dayjob
KVRAF
2100 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:31 pm

Synthack wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:55 pm So it is true, i had to see for myself. :(

That sucks.


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ack. that sucks. kinda knew it was coming. last year i emailed roli about geist. i nagged about tremor, bloom and etch. they were pushing geist in early 2020. half off sale on expansions too.

i forget what roli said but it was pretty much standard "we hate to do it but have to" and something about not being able to develop everything w/the small staff they have.. yada yada yada.

i think Xfer Nerve is still in development.. i don't think it's been updated in forever though haven't paid attention. there was some forum chatter over there about it last i looked.

https://xferrecords.com/products/nerve

NikkiA
KVRist
187 posts since 24 Jul, 2006

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:39 pm

dayjob wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:31 pm
i forget what roli said but it was pretty much standard "we hate to do it but have to" and something about not being able to develop everything w/the small staff they have.. yada yada yada.
They were under bankruptcy protection for most of 2021, and only emerged in September when they vowed that they were going to concentrate mostly on supporting music education going forward, so I guess that point was where it was obvious Roli simply couldn't do anything about Geist, even if they wanted, Investors make the calls...

dayjob
KVRAF
2100 posts since 6 Nov, 2006

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:42 pm

NikkiA wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:39 pm
dayjob wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:31 pm
i forget what roli said but it was pretty much standard "we hate to do it but have to" and something about not being able to develop everything w/the small staff they have.. yada yada yada.
They were under bankruptcy protection for most of 2021, and only emerged in September when they vowed that they were going to concentrate mostly on supporting music education going forward, so I guess that point was where it was obvious Roli simply couldn't do anything about Geist, even if they wanted, Investors make the calls...
a shame they cant sell it off to someone. oh well, so it goes.

carlbe
KVRist
82 posts since 8 Jan, 2006 from Pt. Bob - WA USA

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:05 pm

What programming grid has the features of Tremor or Geist? I just want to point that at Battery.

Cb
Make mine 6/8.

NikkiA
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187 posts since 24 Jul, 2006

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:15 pm

carlbe wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:05 pm What programming grid has the features of Tremor or Geist? I just want to point that at Battery.

Cb
Cakewalk's step editor, and Reaper's megababy (nandy's modded version) come about as close as possible, but cakewalk's only allows a single 'split note' and megababy is ugly as sin (but has all the features, I think - the nandy mod is critical for the ability to offset the beats).

edit: Also AIR Strike has most of the same features, but no beat splitting afaik, and you have to use strike (while it can load samples for each drum component, it doesn't feel right)

carlbe
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82 posts since 8 Jan, 2006 from Pt. Bob - WA USA

Post Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:41 pm

I'm still amazed that for years we have had complex midi generators, arps, etc, but there isn't a beast drum programmer with asymmetrical note splits, tick level shifts, configurable lane loops points, built in Euclidean, different run rates per lane etc. There was something in Reason back years ago that you could time shift lanes, great swing algo, groove templates? I barely remember it. I got tremor and was happy enough.

And in a simple plug-in. I don't want to load an entire daw to get a decent programming grid.
I'm an old man now, but please someone think of the future drum programmers!

Cb
Make mine 6/8.

svrc
KVRist
284 posts since 12 Sep, 2007

Post Thu Jan 27, 2022 3:48 am

Hi, i just want to tell everybody that there is no anymore transfer fee for Geist,i just sold my copy of Geist 2 and Roli waived transfer fee be cause of no longer support.

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DrGonzo
KVRAF
2844 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest

Post Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:16 am

carlbe wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:41 pm And in a simple plug-in. I don't want to load an entire daw to get a decent programming grid.
I'm an old man now, but please someone think of the future drum programmers!
Not being a replacement or anything, but I found Atlas to be very enjoyable to work with for drums.
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greententacle
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260 posts since 30 Nov, 2008

Post Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:50 pm

carlbe wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:41 pm I'm still amazed that for years we have had complex midi generators, arps, etc, but there isn't a beast drum programmer with asymmetrical note splits, tick level shifts, configurable lane loops points, built in Euclidean, different run rates per lane etc. There was something in Reason back years ago that you could time shift lanes, great swing algo, groove templates? I barely remember it. I got tremor and was happy enough.

And in a simple plug-in. I don't want to load an entire daw to get a decent programming grid.
I'm an old man now, but please someone think of the future drum programmers!

Cb
This^

But a million minimoog vsts.
more to come.

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pdxindy
KVRAF
21264 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:10 pm

carlbe wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:41 pm I'm still amazed that for years we have had complex midi generators, arps, etc, but there isn't a beast drum programmer with asymmetrical note splits, tick level shifts, configurable lane loops points, built in Euclidean, different run rates per lane etc. There was something in Reason back years ago that you could time shift lanes, great swing algo, groove templates? I barely remember it. I got tremor and was happy enough.

And in a simple plug-in. I don't want to load an entire daw to get a decent programming grid.
I'm an old man now, but please someone think of the future drum programmers!

Cb
The Step Sequencer in Logic is my favorite these days...

steepwave
KVRer
12 posts since 3 Jan, 2022

Post Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:34 pm

I didn't know people still used Geist lol

greententacle
KVRist
260 posts since 30 Nov, 2008

Post Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:35 am

there is nothing like geist. at least from what i know.

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