One Synth Challenge #156: Synister by QUL at the University of Berlin / Open Source (Voting Started!)

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Very cool and perfect attitude. Don't let this one run you out of steam, though! ;)
...additionally to it's challenges, it also is damn CPU hungry, by the way. Which will make it extra tough for me this time.

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Taron wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:25 pm I sort of stand corrected: It's really pretty bad.
told ya :lol:
[...] avoid aliasing, [...]
I don't mind aliasing. Actually I love the aliasing from those old mod trackers with their 8-bit, 8kHz samples. I did in fact resample some of those in decent resolution without anti-aliasing, just to keep the artifacts...
I don't mind the GUI, really, if the rest was decent it would possibly be great, actually! Different, but nice and workable! Sound, however, nope! :uhuhuh:
I detest this synth in its entirety. But the idea to make it as bad sounding as possible has a certain charm to it. The downside to that would be, that I had to infest my machine with it again and work with it. *desperatlysearchingforavomitingemoji*

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At 6 instances it basically breaks the back of my little miniPC here. Guess with a bit more mixing finesse one might be able to work what could come out of this synth... :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/taronium/dumbone ... al_sharing

...just realized the immense difference between having this on headphones than on speakers. Minor update to moderate the awful kick a bit...

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:hihi: That doesn't even sound that bad...

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It seems that some people here are not happy with the choice of Synister this month. I got to feel a bit guilty because I had the vague idea that at some point I had suggested to Brian and Richard in the "One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread" the use of this synthe. :scared:

So I just checked and found this in February 2020:
baalisoda wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:35 am "Synister" an open source synth by University Students from Berlin (available for Windows and Mac as VST/AU)

Not sure if this has been tried or suggested for OSC before.

https://the-synister.github.io/
z.prime wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:32 pm
baalisoda wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:35 amhttps://the-synister.github.io/
That is a good call :)
IV! wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:22 pm Synister is also a great choice!
* tries to steer the theme away from commercial synthesizers :lol:
And this is mine from July 2020:
L-EctroBit wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:00 pm
baalisoda wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:35 am "Synister" an open source synth by University Students from Berlin (available for Windows and Mac as VST/AU)

Not sure if this has been tried or suggested for OSC before.

https://the-synister.github.io/
I have not installed this yet but it seems like it is very capable synth. And meanwhile we give Björn time to finish the new version of Fury-800. :wink:
I was a little relieved to see that it wasn't just me. :hihi:

I haven't installed Synister on my pc yet, but of course I'm going to try to complete a track this month.

A question for Linux users. I know that some people tried to release a version of Synister for Linux. Someone knows something about it? Some Synister.so or some advice to be able to install it in Linux.

Otherwise I will do the track in Windows 10. :tu:

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SeBaer wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:56 pm :hihi: That doesn't even sound that bad...
Tihihihihi... :hihi: ...thanks! :oops:
But that's just the thing with these "bad" synths. They make sounds, sooooo...one can always try. :pray:

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L-EctroBit wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:03 pm [...]I got to feel a bit guilty [...]
:lol:
The sourcecode lay dormant for the last six years. If it was still in development, getting the KVROSC-treatment could transform it into something useful. But I guess it's dead.

Edit: Typo
Last edited by SeBaer on Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I wanted to join for the first time, but I can't get this to run on Linux (and I don't have nor want Win). The plugin is programmed badly, WINE can't start it properly and it has all sorts of audio and video glitches. Oh well, will try next month :-)

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Taron wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:36 pm At 6 instances it basically breaks the back of my little miniPC here. Guess with a bit more mixing finesse one might be able to work what could come out of this synth... :shrug:

https://soundcloud.com/taronium/dumbone ... al_sharing

...just realized the immense difference between having this on headphones than on speakers. Minor update to moderate the awful kick a bit...
It's a very forward sounding synth. Not awful really, just have to figure out how to give the sounds their own space... Should be fun. WAY better sounding than K1. that effing thing...

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I gave the synth a quick check and liked the architecture. The sound however.... Feels like an interesting challenge. :lol:

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L-EctroBit wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:03 pm A question for Linux users. I know that some people tried to release a version of Synister for Linux. Someone knows something about it? Some Synister.so or some advice to be able to install it in Linux.

Otherwise I will do the track in Windows 10. :tu:
afaik there is no native linux version. But I got this to work on ArchLinux via yabridge without much hassle or issues:
  • Download the *.exe, install it with wine.
  • Move the then extracted *.dll into your $HOME/.vst folder.
  • Run

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    yabridgectl sync
  • Rescan the plugins in your DAW
Note that you might need to downgrade wine-staging to 6.14 beforehand since a bug doesn't allow VST plugins to run properly with newer versions. On arch that's done pretty easily with the downgrade command.
doom-o-matic wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 2:17 pm I wanted to join for the first time, but I can't get this to run on Linux (and I don't have nor want Win). The plugin is programmed badly, WINE can't start it properly and it has all sorts of audio and video glitches. Oh well, will try next month :-)
Sorry to hear that, perhaps the steps above will be helpful? It works without glitches on my box (Arch/Plasma/X)

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MyLoFy wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:20 pm afaik there is no native linux version. But I got this to work on ArchLinux via yabridge without much hassle or issues...
Thanks for the help MyLoFy. :hug: It seems that some people have been able in the past to compile it for Linux. This is a comment from rghvdberg here on KVR that seems to confirm this aside from a thread on linuxmusicians.com.
The link on KVR:

viewtopic.php?p=6418197#p6418197

It is very possible that I will end up making the track on Windows 10. Also, I feel comfortable working on Cakewalk by BandLab. :phones:

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MyLoFy wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:20 pm Note that you might need to downgrade wine-staging to 6.14 beforehand since a bug doesn't allow VST plugins to run properly with newer versions. On arch that's done pretty easily with the downgrade command.
Hah, I might try that. Thanks!

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The Sound Of Merlin wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:40 pm I gave the synth a quick check and liked the architecture. The sound however.... Feels like an interesting challenge. :lol:
Take the plunge! :ud: ...kind of interesting once you suspend all hope for sonic excellence. Your musical powers will overcome all. 8)

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My first impression, when I saw the interface and listened to some of the presets, also was: crap, let it go this month...

But then I played around a bit with it and it has some nice features (3 OSC and 3 LFOs, which can be freely assigned to nearly every parameter).

Sure, it sounds really lo-fi (bad?) and because of only having basic waveforms and e.g. no unison, it won't probably sound brilliant or fat. But I've already created a few patches and for an experimental piece it might work.

Isn't this the challenge?

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