2020... Stuck Note Bug Still Exists? Really?

[chk071]

Surprised here. I never had any note hanging issues with Spire in Studio One or Cubase. U-he Repro on the other hand often hangs in Studio One... might have to do with the virtual MIDI keyboard in Studio One though. On the other hand, no other synth I have has such issues.

[iPlogger]

I purchased Spire two weeks ago and it has really blown me away. Thank you for providing a demo. That pretty much sold me on it. Things have been going great, but I did run into hanging/stuck notes yesterday in a very reproducible way. I noticed mono patches and the sustain pedal don't work well together.

I am on Spire 1.5.5 build 5130. Windows 10 Home 20H2. I have tried in Ableton Live 10.1.30, PlugInGuru's Unify and Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol. The issue occurs with any mono patch I try. I even took the default init and flipped it to mono and was able to reproduce.

To reproduce:

• Hold down the sustain pedal.

• Play notes ascending (C, D, E).

• Play a note that is lower than the last one played (D, for example) and then lift your foot off the pedal. This is the important part.

• Note sustains and will not turn off.

• Switching to another mono patch will play that same note.

• Switching to poly mode seems to be OK, but switching back to mono will continue to play out the note.

I have found two ways to resolve. Either delete the VST and reload it, or retrigger the sustained note. The 2nd one works most of the time, but not 100%.

If I continue playing ascending notes, it's not a problem. The problem is also there when using descending. If I initially start with descending notes, as soon as I play a note HIGHER than the last note, then it hangs.

As I'm just scrolling through sounds, I did not specifically know the sound I was on happened to be mono, so I hit the sustain pedal and had the hanging note. It took me a bit to narrow down what was happening.

[vega555]

Please contact support@reveal-sound.com with detailed information.

Thanks!

[iPlogger]

Thanks. Just sent off an email.

[behrend]

Was there ever a conclusive answer to what caused this? I'm experiencing stuck notes in the latest release.

[Bla28]

same here

[wentzelitis]

same here

[vega555]

Looking forward to your reports at support@reveal-sound.com

Thanks!

[PlasticSoul]

Looking forward to your reports at support@reveal-sound.com

Thanks!

Hi! Same bug here.
I've sent a bug report (via site support) with a YouTube video link and an Ableton 10.1.42 project attached.
Latest Spire version 1.5.10x-64 build 5183.

[vega555]

Please check your email inbox.

There is a Sustain Pedal MIDI command that holds the note in your project.

[PlasticSoul]

Please check your email inbox.

There is a Sustain Pedal MIDI command that holds the note in your project.

Yep, I removed the sustain pedal automation and reopened the project and the "stuck" effect is gone.
Thanks for the support!

[Teksonik]

To reproduce:

• Hold down the sustain pedal.

• Play notes ascending (C, D, E).

• Play a note that is lower than the last one played (D, for example) and then lift your foot off the pedal. This is the important part.

• Note sustains and will not turn off.

• Switching to another mono patch will play that same note.

• Switching to poly mode seems to be OK, but switching back to mono will continue to play out the note.

Just wanted to report that I can reliably reproduce the stuck note issue using the steps above.

This with an empty project with no automation and using an INIT patch set to mono 1.

I am using the latest Spire version 1.5.11 build 5226 on Windows 10 21H2 64 bit in Bitwig.

I have also gotten some stuck notes a few times when not using a sustain pedal in both FL Studio and Bitwig but can't reproduce the issue so far. When and if I can I'll provide further information.

[e@rs]

1.5.11 build 5227 is the latest version. But I've no idea what they mean by 'Minor improvements'...

[vega555]

Just wanted to report that I can reliably reproduce the stuck note issue using the steps above.

This with an empty project with no automation and using an INIT patch set to mono 1.

I am using the latest Spire version 1.5.11 build 5226 on Windows 10 21H2 64 bit in Bitwig.

I have also gotten some stuck notes a few times when not using a sustain pedal in both FL Studio and Bitwig but can't reproduce the issue so far. When and if I can I'll provide further information.

Please send the detailed information to support@reveal-sound.com. Thanks!

[phreaque]

I am using the latest Spire version 1.5.11 build 5226 on Windows 10 21H2 64 bit in Bitwig.

Fwiw the latest Build: 5227

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Spire Synthesizer 1.5.11 - build 5227 (2022.04.13)
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* Minor improvements