Steinberg Discontinuing VST2 Support in its products

[zvenx]

Not a safe bet for you, I might have inside information

But indeed until Cubase 12 they were on two years between each whole number and the year in between , they would release .5 versions. As you know they skipped 11.5 this time, will they also skip a 12.5 and go straight to 13 quicker than the two year cycle? we shall see.

But indeed my guess is by 14 it is indeed dropped.
rsp

[o-range]

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[Super Piano Hater 64]

As you know they skipped 11.5 this time (...)

I missed that, actually. I'm not a Cubase user and I generally don't follow news about their version updates. Anyway, I guess this weakens my chances. Let's wait and see and maybe I'll owe you five dollars.

[zvenx]

I can't bet you on this alas either.
Rsp

[S0lo]

Seems like the whole thing is a little over dramatic.

And again people... 14 years. 14 years all these devs had to see the writing on the wall. VST2 was officially discontinued in what, 2012? Comon folks.

By that same logic. MIDI shouldn't be used at all today because it has been for 35 years now. Yet, new hardware comes out every year supporting MIDI. Why does Roland, Korg, sequential, Novation, Arturia, Moog, etc still support MIDI. Comon folks. move on.

C++ STL library has been there for 22+ years now. We shouldn't use cout, cin, iostream, vectors, etc. they're too old. Let alone C functions like printf() and scanf()

Windows API still has functions and structures that are 25+ years old. BitBlt(), CreateThread(), OpenClipboard(), GlobalAlloc(). etc.. Why doesn't Microsoft remove those old horses ?

I don't know about Apple. But I'm sure others do.

Time doesn't make something obsolete. Some thing is obsolete only if people don't have a use for it any more.

You're making false equivalencies, do I have to spend the time to reply to each as to why, or can we all just accept that.

You could argue that I'm comparing apples and bananas (ie. false equivalencies). And that would be the oldest trick in the book to escape an argument. But then even apples and bananas can be compared under a common criteria. For example, "health", or say "amount of potassium" in both fruits.

The common criteria between the points I listed and your point is "A long time has passed on a certain technology". So I think they can be compared fairly well.

[zvenx]

I think the analogy would be better if Midi 2.0 had been released and in use for years and people still kept using the current Midi, no?

rsp

[S0lo]

I think the analogy would be better if Midi 2.0 had been released and in use for years and people still kept using the current Midi, no?

rsp

I agree it's a good point. But then there was OSC since 2002.

[zvenx]

There is an OSC 2? (never used OSC, just heard it mention a million times on different forums )
rsp

[AnX]

I think I just had a stroke

[Erisian]

Seems like the whole thing is a little over dramatic.

And again people... 14 years. 14 years all these devs had to see the writing on the wall. VST2 was officially discontinued in what, 2012? Comon folks.

By that same logic. MIDI shouldn't be used at all today because it has been for 35 years now. Yet, new hardware comes out every year supporting MIDI. Why does Roland, Korg, sequential, Novation, Arturia, Moog, etc still support MIDI. Comon folks. move on.

C++ STL library has been there for 22+ years now. We shouldn't use cout, cin, iostream, vectors, etc. they're too old. Let alone C functions like printf() and scanf()

Windows API still has functions and structures that are 25+ years old. BitBlt(), CreateThread(), OpenClipboard(), GlobalAlloc(). etc.. Why doesn't Microsoft remove those old horses ?

I don't know about Apple. But I'm sure others do.

Time doesn't make something obsolete. Some thing is obsolete only if people don't have a use for it any more.

You're making false equivalencies, do I have to spend the time to reply to each as to why, or can we all just accept that.

You could argue that I'm comparing apples and bananas (ie. false equivalencies). And that would be the oldest trick in the book to escape an argument. But then even apples and bananas can be compared under a common criteria. For example, "health", or say "amount of potassium" in both fruits.

The common criteria between the points I listed and your point is "A long time has passed on a certain technology". So I think they can be compared fairly well.

I'll do it, but I really resent it because, it always takes twice as long and twice as much energy to neatly and unequivocally obliterate false equivalencies, and it is that to which is actually the oldest trick in the book... To burden the other with such an insurmountable amount 'explain why' that they'd rather just right then and there do something else with their life, other than, unpacking false equivalencies on the internet... I mean could you maybe suss out a few differences between MIDI and VST.. or how a codebase is different from a VST sdk?

Not to mention, no one is saying VST shouldn't be used today. VST exists. It's VST3. I didn't say VST shouldn't be used today. So your initial premise wasn't built right, try again if you like.

so there I sort of it did it, with as little effort as possible

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[AnX]

I think I just had a stroke

Film yourself, epic TikTok.

Tik what?

[Super Piano Hater 64]

Why are you like this?

[Erisian]

I think I just had a stroke

Film yourself, epic TikTok.

Tik what?

It's where people go to become brainless unicorns... since you had a stroke... I thought..

Did you come from there?

[AnX]

I think I just had a stroke

Film yourself, epic TikTok.

Tik what?

It's where people go to become brainless unicorns... since you had a stroke... I thought..

You prob shouldn't think, doesn't suit you...

[LeVzi]

Ok so it's not imminent , V12 maybe 13 will be ok before ppl stop updating

Unless a really solid Vst 2 to 3 adapter comes about.