Review of the new portable hand held steam machine...
Could this be the future in a powerful hand held DAW system ?
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Review of the new portable hand held steam machine...
Could this be the future in a powerful hand held DAW system ?
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Only if DAW makers add an option to make their GUI's suitable for such a small screen.THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:10 pm Review of the new portable hand held steam machine...
Could this be the future in a powerful hand held DAW system ?
Would be awesome, wouldn't it? You can maybe view 3 tracks at a time! Best way to make music.
I'm sure the hardware is well suited for real time audio as well.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no.THE INTRANCER wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:10 pm
Could this be the future in a powerful hand held DAW system ?
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- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
A handheld DAW would be nothing more than a toy. Perfect for use while riding the bus on the way to middle school.
At a top price of $649 I wouldn't even consider it for playing games.
"Powerful" and "Handheld" rarely go together....
At a top price of $649 I wouldn't even consider it for playing games.
"Powerful" and "Handheld" rarely go together....
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
can i recommend "lovehoney"
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- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Ewwww that's a entirely different kind of toy..... 
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 12210 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Gives new meaning to the term “joystick”
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
have i accidentally walked in to prudes park?
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- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Nah in my day I was a freak but those days have long since passed me by. 
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
awwwTeksonik wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:02 pm Nah in my day I was a freak but those days have long since passed me by.
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Super Piano Hater 64 Super Piano Hater 64 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=491312 - KVRian
- 500 posts since 24 Jan, 2021
I don't think we'll see any new audio software that was specifically made possible by the Steam Deck, for a couple of reasons.
First of all, you don't need a whole lot of processing power to make music. There's tracker software for the original Game Boy that uses the built-in audio chip. The controls are the actual bottleneck. As such, the usability of this software is... debatable. A Steam Deck version would have similar problems for similar reasons.
But suppose we ignore the controls and look at a balance between processing power and portability. Again, there are portable devices that already exist, and already have ports/clones of modern DAWs/softsynths, with more than enough power to be viable platforms for their use case. They're called phones and tablets. Here on KVR, there is already a forum for discussing the use of these devices for music production.
Suppose instead that we say there's something special about the dual-purpose character of this hardware, such that it can be used as both a handheld game console and a desktop PC. I don't know what that argument would look like, exactly, but let's just pretend someone is making that argument for some reason. Even then, the Steam Deck is not the first device of its kind. That ball started rolling with the Nintendo Switch. Obviously you can't install Windows on those, but you can install it on many of the other Switch clones that have appeared in the past three years or so. And even if we ignore those, there's at least one DAW on the Switch itself, by the name of Korg Gadget.
There are plenty of reasons to be excited about the Deck. I don't believe for a second that a revolution in music production is one of them.
First of all, you don't need a whole lot of processing power to make music. There's tracker software for the original Game Boy that uses the built-in audio chip. The controls are the actual bottleneck. As such, the usability of this software is... debatable. A Steam Deck version would have similar problems for similar reasons.
But suppose we ignore the controls and look at a balance between processing power and portability. Again, there are portable devices that already exist, and already have ports/clones of modern DAWs/softsynths, with more than enough power to be viable platforms for their use case. They're called phones and tablets. Here on KVR, there is already a forum for discussing the use of these devices for music production.
Suppose instead that we say there's something special about the dual-purpose character of this hardware, such that it can be used as both a handheld game console and a desktop PC. I don't know what that argument would look like, exactly, but let's just pretend someone is making that argument for some reason. Even then, the Steam Deck is not the first device of its kind. That ball started rolling with the Nintendo Switch. Obviously you can't install Windows on those, but you can install it on many of the other Switch clones that have appeared in the past three years or so. And even if we ignore those, there's at least one DAW on the Switch itself, by the name of Korg Gadget.
There are plenty of reasons to be excited about the Deck. I don't believe for a second that a revolution in music production is one of them.
I hate signatures too.
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I had a PS Portable once. For a week or so. Playing on it was absolutely horrible. Don't know why I even bought it in the first place... I hate playing on small displays, and, especially, on such handhelds.
Doing music on something like this? Oh boy... I already hate laptop displays for DAW's.
Doing music on something like this? Oh boy... I already hate laptop displays for DAW's.
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spliffy_mcweed spliffy_mcweed https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=547704
- KVRer
- 18 posts since 16 Jan, 2022
User: DAWs on handheld Linux based gaming consoles are the future!
Also user: Doesn't use any existing Linux DAWs
Also user: Doesn't use any existing game console DAW
Also user: Doesn't use any existing mobile DAW
Also user: Doesn't DAW on a Raspberry Pi or similar tiny computers
Also user: Hasn't considered how awful the controls, screen and overall experience will be
Also user: Almost certainly wouldn't use this either if somebody actually spent years of their life making it happen
Also user: Wonders why DAW developers do not make themselves available to talk to him about his great ideas
Also user: Doesn't use any existing Linux DAWs
Also user: Doesn't use any existing game console DAW
Also user: Doesn't use any existing mobile DAW
Also user: Doesn't DAW on a Raspberry Pi or similar tiny computers
Also user: Hasn't considered how awful the controls, screen and overall experience will be
Also user: Almost certainly wouldn't use this either if somebody actually spent years of their life making it happen
Also user: Wonders why DAW developers do not make themselves available to talk to him about his great ideas