I'm very worried about reason studios

[D-Fusion]

Well Well.
It said Next Payment where €0.33 and when it was time to get some money from me Yesterday they Changed it to €19.99.

Got a Refund So it is all good now

[dellboy]

Well Well.
It said Next Payment where €0.33 and when it was time to get some money from me Yesterday they Changed it to €19.99+Vat.
I don't Use Reason at the moment and this tipped me over to never do a Subscription From them Again so i asked for a Refund.

Did they refund you?

[D-Fusion]

Well Well.
It said Next Payment where €0.33 and when it was time to get some money from me Yesterday they Changed it to €19.99+Vat.
I don't Use Reason at the moment and this tipped me over to never do a Subscription From them Again so i asked for a Refund.

Did they refund you?

I am still Waiting for a Answer Since it is just a few hours since i Sent the Complain.

[kmonkey]

Ok, I see. But in my eyes the whole RE environment more than makes up for that - upon installing Reason (after OS upgrade, new computer, etc.) with one click and still from the same login & password I can have all my instruments, FX and utilities installed, upgraded, authorized; both 1st and 3rd party.

Hm I can have Ableton and official + 3rd party addons (MaxForLive) running without any login. Just one click to run Ableton and everything is running. No copy protection software there. Offline working fine.

In fact the only time that I need to go online is when I want to run Reason RE inside of Ableton.

Updating m4l is another thing - it takes doubleclick to update. Shocker.

[jens]

Well Well.
It said Next Payment where €0.33 and when it was time to get some money from me Yesterday they Changed it to €19.99+Vat.
I don't Use Reason at the moment and this tipped me over to never do a Subscription From them Again so i asked for a Refund.

Exactly the way they seek to make money these days, me thinks.

Well, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

Ambivalence: I feel sorry for people’s hazzle with R12 and subscription issues, but at the same time it makes me so happy for my Reason 11 Suite. I have one installed on a macbook pro with no need to go online, and a back up on a macbook Air that needs a login already saved in the formulars. It just flows with minimal need of “external” RS mumbo. Thus, subscriptions are great….as long as they ain’t mine.

[antic604]

Hm I can have Ableton and official + 3rd party addons (MaxForLive) running without any login. Just one click to run Ableton and everything is running. No copy protection software there. Offline working fine.

In fact the only time that I need to go online is when I want to run Reason RE inside of Ableton.

Updating m4l is another thing - it takes doubleclick to update. Shocker.

But to install those 3rd party M4L you have to d/l them from maxforlive.com, many of them require separate purchase from dev's website and you need to keep track of updates (and perform them) yourself, put files in the right folder, make sure you're not d/l a virus, etc. Only 1st party M4Ls will be visible in Packs.

None of that applies to Reason.

[Rastkovic]

But to install those 3rd party M4L you have to d/l them from maxforlive.com, many of them require separate purchase from dev's website and you need to keep track of updates (and perform them) yourself, put files in the right folder, make sure you're not d/l a virus, etc. Only 1st party M4Ls will be visible in Packs.

None of that applies to Reason.

Never had the issue, that a M4L device stopped working. Max/MSP seems to be very solid in that regard, or they take much care of backward compatibility. I don't know....

[antic604]

But to install those 3rd party M4L you have to d/l them from maxforlive.com, many of them require separate purchase from dev's website and you need to keep track of updates (and perform them) yourself, put files in the right folder, make sure you're not d/l a virus, etc. Only 1st party M4Ls will be visible in Packs.

None of that applies to Reason.

Never had the issue, that a M4L device stopped working. Max/MSP seems to be very solid in that regard, or they take much care of backward compatibility. I don't know....

I never said that, although indeed rare crashes I had in Live were 90% caused by 3rd party M4L devices, not to mention that a simple LFO uses 10-15x the CPU that Bitwig's modulator doing the same does. Hard to measure that precisely, because it's still a small amount, although it quickly compounds in a full project.

[D-Fusion]

Well Well.
It said Next Payment where €0.33 and when it was time to get some money from me Yesterday they Changed it to €19.99+Vat.
I don't Use Reason at the moment and this tipped me over to never do a Subscription From them Again so i asked for a Refund.

Exactly the way they seek to make money these days, me thinks.

Well, that escalated quickly, didn't it?

Yes. It did and i find this to be a shitty move.
They did apologize for this insident was Quick to Refund me so it is all good now

[LaLivre]

4 years later: Reason Studios sold, CEO gone.

[jens]

CEO gone.

Yes, and as I always claimed, it's obvious that he never had any genuine in music production. His new company is not related to music or music production or even just media in any way. He's one of these managers who are only interested in this business management stuff - zero real interest in whatever the company they head is actually doing - which is why he's terrible at this business stuff - and yet he's allowed to move from company to company, making people's life miserable.

[LaLivre]

CEO gone.

Yes, and as I always claimed, it's obvious that he never had any genuine in music production. His new company is not related to music or music production or even just media in any way. He's one of these managers who are only interested in this business management stuff - zero real interest in whatever the company they head is actually doing - which is why he's terrible at this business stuff - and yet he's allowed to move from company to company, making people's life miserable.

Very harsh, but unfortunately quite accurate.

[eLawnMust]

What a buncha shit putting up with... Glad I'm still on Reason 2.5 & 3.0 as that kinda efficiency will never be seen again, certainly no need for track bouncing!

[artek604]

CEO gone.

Yes, and as I always claimed, it's obvious that he never had any genuine in music production. His new company is not related to music or music production or even just media in any way. He's one of these managers who are only interested in this business management stuff - zero real interest in whatever the company they head is actually doing - which is why he's terrible at this business stuff - and yet he's allowed to move from company to company, making people's life miserable.

I recently installed R13 again and boy it's such a great DAW - runs well, looks awesome, does 80-90% of what I want from it. It's so immediately inspiring, like no other DAW is (for me, of course)

I hope LANDR can turn it around, but the radio silence from the staff on socials and even on the beta forums is deafening.

I'm still hopeful, though