I want to copy over a .Wav file open in Ableton but Ableton keeps hold of file handle - any way around that ?
- KVRist
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
I dragged in a file, 1.Wav file into Ableton.
It plays Ok in the timeline.
I want to be able to copy over 1.Wav with another audio file 2.Wav.
I can't do this because Ableton keeps the file handle open. Other DAWs like Reaper don't do this and you can copy and the change is reflected in the timeline.
Is there a setting or something in Ableton that will allow this ?
(I am using Ableton Lite 11)
It plays Ok in the timeline.
I want to be able to copy over 1.Wav with another audio file 2.Wav.
I can't do this because Ableton keeps the file handle open. Other DAWs like Reaper don't do this and you can copy and the change is reflected in the timeline.
Is there a setting or something in Ableton that will allow this ?
(I am using Ableton Lite 11)
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35453 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
ambiguous. copy over where? in your Ableton project? On disk?MasterTuner wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:57 pm I dragged in a file, 1.Wav file into Ableton.
It plays Ok in the timeline.
I want to be able to copy over 1.Wav with another audio file 2.Wav.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
in the project so all edits happen to all instances?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
On disk, and have the change reflected on the Ableton timeline.whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:01 pmambiguous. copy over where? in your Ableton project? On disk?MasterTuner wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:57 pm I dragged in a file, 1.Wav file into Ableton.
It plays Ok in the timeline.
I want to be able to copy over 1.Wav with another audio file 2.Wav.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
Yes, change the file on disk, and have all instances of that .Wav updated with the new file on the Ableton timeline.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
I need to do it outside Ableton - there's a good reason why I want to do it this wayGuenon wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:15 pm Change the instances in one go using Live's own project management tools.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
Windows error:thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:22 pm Why can't you simply delete the file and then replace it?
"The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process."
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- KVRAF
- 1950 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
In normal circumstances it would be a trivial operation using Live's built-in management tools (you can literally drag the new sample over the current file reference, and from then on it will reference the new sample in all the places the previous one was). But if you have a special reason for not doing it this way, I believe you 
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Do you have the file open in another program? Are you using session or arrangemenht view? Is the WAV file open in both views?MasterTuner wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:23 pmWindows error:thecontrolcentre wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:22 pm Why can't you simply delete the file and then replace it?
"The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process."
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
Is it possible to write a Script or Macro in Ableton in the management tool that could do the following:Guenon wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:23 pm In normal circumstances it would be a trivial operation using Live's built-in management tools (you can literally drag the new sample over the current file reference, and from then on it will reference the new sample in all the places the previous one was). But if you have a special reason for not doing it this way, I believe you![]()
a) Let's say I have a kick and snare .Wav samples in the timeline, Kick.Wav, Snare.Wav
b) I copy replacement_kick.Wav, and replacement_snare.Wav to a temp folder
c) Run Ableton script/maco to temporarily make Kick.Wav, Snare.Wav offline. Then copy replacement_kick.Wav, and replacement_snare.Wav, over Kick.Wav and Snare.Wav respectively. Then bring Kick.Wav and Snare.Wav back online, and thus change it that way.
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- KVRAF
- 1950 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
I don't know whether that is possible. The files are put offline while the external editor is running, so if there is a way to engage external editors for particular files in the unofficial API, and so on, maybe it can be done. You can also manually place a specific file offline using this method, if it doesn't need to be 100% automated, of course. Are you sure you aren't willing to describe what you actually need this for? 
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- KVRian
- 931 posts since 14 Dec, 2014
You can replace in place any audio file in Live with Hot-Swap (usually a round button with an icon that resembles a recycle logo, in Audio Clips the actual filename works like a URL link, you can drag files over it) or using File > Manage Files menu option, there is no need to nuke file 1.wav with 2.wav
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/manag ... references
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/manag ... -swap-mode
Also, I just noticed the Manage/Replace Files panel has a "Edit" button besides each listed sample, and if you click it it actually makes the sample "offline" (without an external editor set in Preferences), allowing you to edit and overwrite the file.
You can right-click the filename "link" in a Audio Clip for faster access to Manage Sample, Show in Browser and Show in Explorer (Finder in MacOS I guess) options.
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/manag ... references
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/manag ... -swap-mode
Also, I just noticed the Manage/Replace Files panel has a "Edit" button besides each listed sample, and if you click it it actually makes the sample "offline" (without an external editor set in Preferences), allowing you to edit and overwrite the file.
You can right-click the filename "link" in a Audio Clip for faster access to Manage Sample, Show in Browser and Show in Explorer (Finder in MacOS I guess) options.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 481 posts since 30 May, 2018
I saw the Edit button which puts the individual file offline.pottering wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:54 pm You can replace in place any audio file in Live with Hot-Swap (usually a round button with an icon that resembles a recycle logo, in Audio Clips the actual filename works like a URL link, you can drag files over it) or using File > Manage Files menu option, there is no need to nuke file 1.wav with 2.wav
Is there no way in Ableton to set up a shortcut key to invoke an Ableton script to "put all audio files in the project offline"?
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