[free-available] New DSPplug Mark3

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I've seen a few pivotal releases such as the TBT TLS LEA and the VOS Rescue Mk 2 in the way of freeware, also what comes to mind is the Freq by Nick Johnstone, the SonEQ free by Sonimus, the Safe compressor by Semantic audio, CompressiveCM by Martin Eastwood, Mverb by Martin Eastwood to name a few. Those plug-ins changed the way I mixed and made Me crave a different level of plug-in that could do more.

In no way is this plug-in a collaboration of the companies DSPplug and VOS.
I re-created this so that it's entirely original and cannot be called a port or a re-creation, just a nice alternative, a close facsimile which will achieve the same end.

I appreciate the support and kindness which I've recieved by many here.

This plug-in is entirely free and has the following options:
mid/side mix -0.00% to 100% to +9 dBFS
mid/side on/off (still utilizes punch etc, as well as depth for haas like effect [can be superceded by width])
dBFS pk, RMS dBFS pk master select in rms +6 rms dbfs to -21 RMS dfs -also- +6 dbfs to -9 dBFS (these allow you to master creatively)
volume master add 6 dbfs or subtract volume by 100%
M/S EQ LS/pk/HS
Punch reduce or add 24 dbfs with a RBJ peaking filter at 0.89 res and 24 dbFS.
De-ess Side can emphasize treble in digital, so turn this on to reduce the high end after 14Khz with a custom moog filter. I may also be able to add a method to reduce distortion due to limiting to reduction the the digital mode.

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https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dspplu ... by-dspplug
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Last edited by kingozrecords on Tue Feb 15, 2022 3:19 am, edited 9 times in total.
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With a complete GUI and all the bells and whistles (maybe mousewheel support too), I'll have a totally functional version with a beautiful GUI (a slight mod of the above) up and running. I promise speed and the lack of fonts (which can slow rendering). Also I use only two image strips, one for the rms number (+6 to -21) and the dBFS one (+6 to -9). That means a fast load. I'm moving beyond credits screens also, because they add bulk. Instead, all credits can be seen right on the site's section instead.

Now it looks a bit like a waves plug-in. Expect this style and functionality to replace all of My plug-ins (with varying styles). I'm preparing for the transition to mac plugins which means a different approach to layouts.
Last edited by kingozrecords on Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Lack of fonts. Typography is an art that's been around for a long time. Rolling your own bitmap or vector text rendering is probably a big chore and you can't update the look with a new font or tweak the existing font. I agree about performance being precious, but home-made text rendering is often pretty sad. What about scalability? Hmm, maybe you could use SVG or some other display-list format and read a font into an editor and have scalable text labels. That still makes it very hard for translation into other languages. I have a bias toward using a message files and letting local experts help out with translations. So much of the old SynthEdit VST2 world has the text baked into the background images. It's one of the worst things about that world. There's only one worse thing, Steinberg not providing a GUI system so everyone just rolled their own.

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Eirikur wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:10 am Lack of fonts. Typography is an art that's been around for a long time. Rolling your own bitmap or vector text rendering is probably a big chore and you can't update the look with a new font or tweak the existing font. I agree about performance being precious, but home-made text rendering is often pretty sad. What about scalability? Hmm, maybe you could use SVG or some other display-list format and read a font into an editor and have scalable text labels. That still makes it very hard for translation into other languages. I have a bias toward using a message files and letting local experts help out with translations. So much of the old SynthEdit VST2 world has the text baked into the background images. It's one of the worst things about that world. There's only one worse thing, Steinberg not providing a GUI system so everyone just rolled their own.
I agree with it being weird. I've also gotten accustomed to the idea. I suppose if you think ahead then by using image maps you can do the same thing, but the amount of ones and zeroes is limited.

I compared though, i7 vs i2, a 101 frame 250px by 250px 4x oversampled image took 15 minutes to render on an old core 2 and 40 minutes to render on a souped up i7 due to these "advancements". It opened My eyes and I just want to achieve speed. Mixing music should be fun number one; even if technical, otherwise it's not exciting. Just like how I feel a slower to load product is inferior in DAW's.

Some plug-ins will need text though, no way around it for very technical things. I updated the first post with the new explanatory video that's fairly well made.

New version now available
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dspplu ... by-dspplug

updated to 1.2, fixing any switch related errors. Should also be capable of automation now too
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You released a clone of Bootsy's Rescue Mk2 and named it Rescue Mk3? Did he ok that?

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hmm :scared:
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twoifbysea wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:20 pm You released a clone of Bootsy's Rescue Mk2 and named it Rescue Mk3? Did he ok that?
It's not called rescue, and it's not called MK. It's also entirely original creation. cherry audio is not worried when they re-create vintage gear by roland, and neither am I. And they go out of their way to ensure it's identical. I did not, in fact I endeavored to make something original.

Neither is anyone concerned when they mention the label apple, or windows, or roland, or any brand name what-have-you.

All parts of this product are from My own commercial products. I released it to fulfill a demand. I gain nothing, but the satisfaction that it's useful and that means a lot to Me.
I don't skimp on updates either and mac support is coming.

Many people don't want to use bridging products, I sympathise. I provided the source to the original creator of the "Rescue MK2", should that person ever want to take on the project and release it under their company name.

If I discontinue a product, it's fair game. If Roland does, If Teenage Engineering, if Casio etc etc etc. Here we are in a forum talking about such re-creations. Where people make money by creating emulations of hardware gear, and some gear that's still being sold for monetary gain.

Shame on us all. What is the world coming to :)
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We're also on a forum dedicated to the creation of intellectual property so respecting the IP rights of others is important.

Just because a product is discontinued it doesn't make it "fair game" if someone still holds the rights.

I'm not accusing you of anything I just don't want you to lose sight of the reason KVR exists.
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Teksonik wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:00 pm We're also on a forum dedicated to the creation of intellectual property so respecting the IP rights of others is important.

Just because a product is discontinued it doesn't make it "fair game" if someone still holds the rights.

I'm not accusing you of anything I just don't want you to lose sight of the reason KVR exists.
It's a totally original product. It's similar, but so is the lauridsen technique and so are many other mid side products. In fact, if you were to compare the lauridsen technique to this, you'd see the only difference is the fact that the mid signal is additive, and furthermore that side lessens the phase of that effect.

The depth is merely the choice of highpass / lowpass crossover which is everything beyond the high pass number (350hz to 100hz). It's construed as depth because the lower the highpass, the more significant the phase cancellation on bass is. where as width and depth are the control signals to define stereo width (bipolar -1 to +1). I've created many products which have the same functionality.

The punch is merely an rbj filter that I created using the RBJ cookbook, and the exact punch method was outlined at this url:
https://gearspace.com/board/so-much-gea ... 90590a6754
21doors@geearslutz wrote: Is this what people want to hear when they want "punch"???

I recently rediscovered a very old technique I hadn't tried in probably 8 years... Take a very very narrow peaking EQ, and fish around in the 110-150hz area, especially 125Hz.. Boost it like 12 dB. It kinda gets that Same punch without the boxiness of boosting the higher mids.

Anyone try this???
Furthermore, in the way of mid side (a completely unique algorithm I designed), it is designed to mix to unity levels. At the default settings, both mid and side are exactly 50% of the signal, meaning that the gain is less about gainstaging as it is the ability to make the signal entirely one or the other effect. This means that even if you turn off mid and side, it can become a stereo to mono effect as well as being a mono to stereo effect. There also is the realization that it sports three custom made rbj filters, a low shelf, a peaking filter and a high shelf for both options of mid and side.

It's not called rescue. And I was a client of the "rescue", a customer of the original who did not have a working bridge software. I bought jbridge but it often fails to function, furthermore I found Myself in need of a similar effect for vocals as I make video. As a customer I was abandoned and My needs were not met. It's a similar product that's designed to do a lot more, and it fulffils the basic functionality of what the VOS product did.

When I'd realized the product was discontinued (after that was asserted by the creator via email) I'd realized I'd needed to make My own unique product which serves the same purpose. Afterall, if I raise a family and abandon them, am I then upset that another father has stepped in to raise that family in My place?

If I am as a customer abandoned, then I am always grateful should there be a close facsimile. I do not see the differentiation between a family and a customer base, as often livelihoods and lifestyles are dependent on that functionality; just as children would be dependants. I'd realized this more recently in My choice to remove x86/32 bit versions of VST2/VST3. I came to understand that it was unethical of Me to release solely 64 bit, as there are customers who require 32 bit. Regardless of this, I also realized that the product needed to be entirely original, and it is.

Like in the case of sony shutting down and selling much daw technology to magix and cakewalk selling tech to acoustica. I was given the offer in both cases for a discount. Furthermore, I have an existing license to both products to make up for that (though acoustica was not free).

I'd made a unique product and orientated it in such a way so that it's unique features were something that was similar, so they understood it. But in light of intrigue and stigma, version 1.4 will reflect that and those changes will take effect. I may also make the source entirely open so to even further reduce any doubt or skepticism. Rather than being like lauridsen's method with delay, I chose the simpler and less complicated haas technique. The old lauridsen technique entailed a setting called depth, as well as floor and ambience to create a room noise. I'd say the vos rescue product was built around that concept entirely while also providing mid/side functionality and a limiter for mid/side which are clippers with 1 db of gain rom what I can tell. I could also remove those too if there's any further critique, just let Me know. We're a bit like a family here, and I like everyone to see that I'm attempting to be agreeable (and useful) more often than not.

I created the Mark3 to fill the void that another, now discontinued product had filled, in
a 32 bit capacity. I've now updated the produt to 1.4 ensuring that it is as original as something can be.
Last edited by kingozrecords on Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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So its 'a totally original product', you're just calling it a port, whilst passing off a fake connection to the original.
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I read the original post before it got edited. In no way did I have the impression that he is actually cloning Rescue MK2 or is collaborating with Herbert on it.
The way he worded it, it was clear to me that his plugin is supposed to be a Hommage to Resque that seeks to do quite a similar thing in its own way.

Whether je succeeded or not in this endeavour I am not going to judge, but I can't see anything wrong or even illegal here - not at all.
I think the perception and reception of this thread and product is tainted by expectations regarding its author. And I am not sure that's really fair.

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The thread title states that Mark 3 is an
un-official rescue Mk2 port
. Thats mis-leading imho (and obviously click-bait)

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ports are no mere 'clones'. ports are adaptations of software from one platform to another, modifications of the original code.

the use of the word 'port' is an explicit claim of access to the original source code, which, for closed-source software, would only normally be available from the original developer.
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kingozrecords wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:05 pmThe mark3 is a unique product that will fulfill the same purpose and more. In no way is it an attempt to re-create, but instead the attempt to make a better software
In the original post:
kingozrecords wrote: ...there were tens of thousands of people who, like Me were dazzled by the concept behind the Rescue Mark2. It makes mastering vocals so easy. Only now, after I've gained years of knowledge is it a comfortable notion to re-create it.
This is now edited away.

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jens wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:45 pm I read the original post before it got edited. In no way did I have the impression that he is actually cloning Rescue MK2 or is collaborating with Herbert on it.
The way he worded it, it was clear to me that his plugin is supposed to be a Hommage to Resque that seeks to do quite a similar thing in its own way.

Whether je succeeded or not in this endeavour I am not going to judge, but I can't see anything wrong or even illegal here - not at all.
I think the perception and reception of this thread and product is tainted by expectations regarding its author. And I am not sure that's really fair.
Still, a bit sketchy innit? :?
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