NFR Ranting - how do you guys proceed? DMG Audio example
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- KVRAF
- 9679 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
ok NFR got me and striked back the first time for me :/ i bought EQuilibrium way back as a 2nd hand license and it is NFR, it collects dust since years as i use Pro Q all the way. it just feels better and is a joy to work. i knew it will be NFR so no bash against DMG Audio but while sorting out my plugins i see it and am reminded what a waste of money it is and even with a license transfer fee, no it stays NFR :/. especially if it is a higher priced software, it really sucks. thx for reading my rant 
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- KVRian
- 1199 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
Maybe email the developer and ask them to allow the transfer? Explain that you don’t use it and if there is a transfer fee and you bring them a new client they shouldn’t be too upset about it. Some developers are more flexible than others though.
- addled muppet weed
- 111326 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
use it as a lesson to not just keep buying stuff you don't need.
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
and if you do buy stuff new, don't cheap out and buy it secondhand as an nfr.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Delete it, simple, just do it.
It's only sunk money.
Free yourself!
It's only sunk money.
Free yourself!
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- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
You rant about it on here, then move on and forget it.
You can't change anything , and that's the end of it.
If you buy knowing its NFR afterwards, you got zero come back. I've done it, not happy about it but you accept it and move on.
But KVR comes in handy for that, maybe needs a rant section, at least you can get stuff off your chest. It does help.
You can't change anything , and that's the end of it.
If you buy knowing its NFR afterwards, you got zero come back. I've done it, not happy about it but you accept it and move on.
But KVR comes in handy for that, maybe needs a rant section, at least you can get stuff off your chest. It does help.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9679 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
thx guys hahaha, yeah i hope i learned my lesson out of this, sadly the dev didnt agree with a license fee or something... well not his fault but mine. i now understand why people dont like NFR stuff.
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- KVRAF
- 6285 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I dont buy NFR products anymore except under rare circumstances. I also maintain the #noNFR tag in my signature and I let devs know by email that i wont buy their NFR products. These guys have an interesting approach to NFR, at the bottom of the page... http://audioflatulence.com/
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9679 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
thx gonna check it!plexuss wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:32 pm I dont buy NFR products anymore except under rare circumstances. I also maintain the #noNFR tag in my signature and I let devs know by email that i wont buy their NFR products. These guys have an interesting approach to NFR, at the bottom of the page... http://audioflatulence.com/
yeah i wanted to get off some feelings so i wanted to open a small rant topic
im glad that a lot of companies dont do NFR or let themselves paid a small fee, which is ok mostly.
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- KVRAF
- 3423 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
this is why you checkout the available demo for as long as is allowed before buying anything.
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
been doing that lately myself - definitely the way to gomartinjuenke wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:02 pm Delete it, simple, just do it.
It's only sunk money.
Free yourself!
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- Banned
- 2524 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
NFR is at at least better than No Transfers or Bullshit Conditions that make software effectively worthless the second you buy it. All of these shit me off but also, as martinjuenke points out, you just have to let it go.
Music software is a tricky thing - a lot of it does not allow any sort of demo,eg kontakt libraries and can be advertised deceptively so the consumer is conned into buying it or pressured in to buying it.
And one's tastes change so that software that was useful is useful no longer. And also software develops so what was once cutting edge with a fantastic feature set is now pretty decrepit and other products can now do the things you actually wanted to do much better.
And we make mistakes.
Music software is a tricky thing - a lot of it does not allow any sort of demo,eg kontakt libraries and can be advertised deceptively so the consumer is conned into buying it or pressured in to buying it.
And one's tastes change so that software that was useful is useful no longer. And also software develops so what was once cutting edge with a fantastic feature set is now pretty decrepit and other products can now do the things you actually wanted to do much better.
And we make mistakes.
- KVRAF
- 6285 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
"No transfer" is NFR for all intents and purposes.fairlyclose wrote: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:21 pm NFR is at at least better than No Transfers or Bullshit Conditions ...
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
I don't like NFR, but I can accept it.
I prefere NFR after the first transfer in combination with a hassle free copy protection a lot to complicated copy protection and multiple transfers.
I even think a reasonable transfer fee is very ok!
My priority is to support the economic health of the boutique developers first, only after than I'm concerned with the ability to resell the software again. Boutique developers are the best thing in the industry for quality and ease of use and the one thing that is so much better with audio compared to visual content creation.
I prefere NFR after the first transfer in combination with a hassle free copy protection a lot to complicated copy protection and multiple transfers.
I even think a reasonable transfer fee is very ok!
My priority is to support the economic health of the boutique developers first, only after than I'm concerned with the ability to resell the software again. Boutique developers are the best thing in the industry for quality and ease of use and the one thing that is so much better with audio compared to visual content creation.
