Ozone Pro - iZotope go subscription

[Burillo]

LOL someone clearly doesn't do this for long. I bet Algorithmix plugin price will shock you. today's price are very cheap compared to what you'd pay for high quality plugins a couple of decades ago.

[Dombaeb]

Jesus christ...

Seems it was ground-breaking technology. Did they forget to update the prices?

LOL someone clearly doesn't do this for long. I bet Algorithmix plugin price will shock you. today's price are very cheap compared to what you'd pay for high quality plugins a couple of decades ago.

[Burillo]

it may have been, twenty years ago... but we live in a different time now, when you can get something as advanced as Ozone 9 for like $100, and you're still complaining it's too much

[Ploki]

By the way, does anybody annoyed by the "standard" cost of one plugin at around $100-$200? When did it become so normal in the audio industry? I think this is due to the fact that music for the majority is a passion and a favorite hobby. After all these stories with the transition to a subscription from many plugin developers, it seems to me that this fact is being shamelessly used.

It really pisses me off how they are constantly trying to get more money out of me, given that almost each of these companies has already sold me plugins for a total amount from $150 to $400. The psychology of endless profits through constant changes in the terms of the buyer-seller contract.

I think, I the end of the days I will leave this rat race and leave only stock plugins and, maybe, some hand-picked tools from adequate small teams like Valhalla, Liquidsonics, and Voxengo.

I could make it work with voxengo, fab and u-he.
(and stock)

[BigHeadTodd]

People, I can't stress how good Acon Digital's Acoustica is. And their effect pieces are solid. But some of their things (fades, stem separation) are simply the best sounding things available as of this writing.  

 

[BigHeadTodd]

Duplicate post because I can't internet.
 

[billcarroll]

it may have been, twenty years ago... but we live in a different time now, when you can get something as advanced as Ozone 9 for like $100, and you're still complaining it's too much

Subscription or not, I would just hope they choose to offer the same feature to people who have purchased their plugin. I've spent a decent amount on the full bundle. Some really good plugins in there. Just prefer they make the updates available to all

[Panagiotis Kouvelis]

I believe that a software company, if possible, should have both models available:

1) Paid once: For those who like to have a production line and not the latest feature update, or any feature update whatsoever (excluding bug/security fixes).
2) Subscription: For those who like to just pay for when they use stuff.

If you think about it, ti really depends on business/operation model compatibility between the vendor and the client. It's a kind of very free partnership in a way. When the client's operation model is compatible with the way the vendor wants to offer its business, then we have an agreement. If not, the complaints start, or the client searches for other vendors with more compatible models.

The most important thing here is to understand that if the vendor sees that most clients have incompatible operation models, the vendor will have to change its model or it will lose business.

For example, my day to day is audio, but I'm also working with graphics. When Adobe switched to a subscription-only model, I couldn't easily switch, so they keep selling me their software for a year and a half by subscription. But then Serif came with their Affinity line of graphic editors with a paid once model, which was more compatible with what I do. Then I switched.

Personally, I don't like the subscription model at all, but some times I think that if I need a piece of software for just 2 moths per year, maybe subscription is the way to go.

Subscription is good for a software that is offered as a service or a software sold together with a service. Because of the advanced technology we now have and the complicated way operating systems and various programs work together, many businesses decided to offer maintenance and support as a service together with their applications. This is the case with many companies as they can offer more stable products that way with better support for their users.

Don't forget that some 20 years ago there wasn't so many people that wanted to create media, so a plugin company would have support engineers just for the few cases of people which faced a real technical issue. Now, anyone wants to create something and we can, which is awesome, but now support personnel needs to support people that didn't even read the manual, or in the worst case they don't really know what they're doing. The weight of the many falling on the weight of the few, is one of the prices we pay when a part of our society goes popular and fully commercial. There are bucks to be made, but also many to be served.

With software it's easier to keep both models open, pay once or subscribe, thus serving with good tools everybody. I really hope iZotope model and the biggest part of their clientele, leads them to choose to stay this way.

[Igor Sena]

I believe that a software company, if possible, should have both models available:

1) Paid once: For those who like to have a production line and not the latest feature update, or any feature update whatsoever (excluding bug/security fixes).
2) Subscription: For those who like to just pay for when they use stuff.

If you think about it, ti really depends on business/operation model compatibility between the vendor and the client. It's a kind of very free partnership in a way. When the client's operation model is compatible with the way the vendor wants to offer its business, then we have an agreement. If not, the complaints start, or the client searches for other vendors with more compatible models.

The most important thing here is to understand that if the vendor sees that most clients have incompatible operation models, the vendor will have to change its model or it will lose business.

For example, my day to day is audio, but I'm also working with graphics. When Adobe switched to a subscription-only model, I couldn't easily switch, so they keep selling me their software for a year and a half by subscription. But then Serif came with their Affinity line of graphic editors with a paid once model, which was more compatible with what I do. Then I switched.

Personally, I don't like the subscription model at all, but some times I think that if I need a piece of software just for 2 moths per year, subscription is maybe the way to go.

Subscription is good for a software that is offered as a service or a software sold together with a service. Because of the advanced technology we now have and the complicated way operating systems and various programs work together, many businesses decided to offer maintenance and support as a service together with their applications. This is the case with many companies as they can offer more stable products that way with better support for their users.

Don't forget that some 20 years ago there wasn't so many people that wanted to create media, so a plugin company would have support engineers just for the few cases of people which faced a real technical issue. Now, anyone wants to create something and we can, which is awesome, but now support personnel needs to support people that didn't even read the manual, or in the worst case they don't know really what they're doing. The weight of the many falling on the weight of the few, is one of the prices we pay when a part of our society goes popular and fully commercial. There are bucks to be made, but also many to be served.

With software it's easier to keep both models open, pay once or subscribe, thus serving with good tools everybody. I really hope iZotope model and the biggest part of their clientele, leads them to choose to stay this way.

Very well said.

[AcdNrg]

Looking at Music Production Suite (MPS) v4.1 vs MPS Pro, I could go either way - or switch to a different vendor, which I´m very much tempted to do.

What really bugs me: Single products are pretty much the same, no matter if you buy or rent (early updates not taken into account). With the suites though, there is some trickery involved, since MPS Pro is not just "MPS4.1 in a subscription model". The differences are not exactly easy to spot, a simple two column table is obviously too much to ask for. Oh, and the included products are listed in different order, so it´s a little less easy to compare. FTS.

To me it looks like this:

Both suites have similar versions of:
Ozone
Neutron
Nectar
Vocal Synth
Neoverb
Tonal Balance Control
Insight

MPS Pro exclusive:
Melodyne 5 Essential
RX Pro

MPS 4.1 exclusive:
Stutter Edit
R4
Nimbus
RX Standard

So as a subscriber, I get some RX features, but loose 3 products? Who is the ten tango person that thought "this is a great incentive to make customers go subscription"

As a customer, I don´t feel like I´m in good hands here, it starts to look like the "loyalty offers" taken to the next level. This does not create trust or brand loyalty. Now that I´ve spent a good amount of time on thinking whether it´s worth it, I´m at the point where, heck, I´ll throw even more time on the question and look for alternatives.

[6track]

Looking at Music Production Suite (MPS) v4.1 vs MPS Pro, I could go either way - or switch to a different vendor, which I´m very much tempted to do.
Both suites have similar versions of:
Ozone
Neutron
Nectar
Vocal Synth
Neoverb
Tonal Balance Control
Insight

MPS Pro exclusive:
Melodyne 5 Essential
RX Pro

MPS 4.1 exclusive:
Stutter Edit
R4
Nimbus
RX Standard

RX Pro = RX Standard
MPS 4.1 have Melodyne 5 essential too and Groove 3 1-year.

[AcdNrg]

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Thanks for the heads up. They should update the product page with the melodyne info then... overall, I still think it´s a hot mess.

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/mus ... suite.html (https://izotope.pxf.io/c/4241666/2521502/30400?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.izotope.com%2Fen%2Fproducts%2Fmusic-production-suite.html)

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