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Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:39 pm

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LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:34 am

After experiencing Model 72 and 84 (already started using in an EP fwiw), I am so excited for the next Softube synth that I can pre-order it already.

These are probably the best examples of case where GAS/FOMO is irrelevant. Absolutely top-notch! The kind of synths that would push you to actually use them even if they are not directly suitable to the style of music you are making. You would want to make music with them. Versatile synths with presets being an icing on the cake.

I hope we will see a new Softube synth this year.

nirm123 · Post by **nirm123** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:21 am

The fact that you have all of the components within Softube modular really brings it to the next level.
Poly moog ? you have it. More envelopes for Juno ? no problems. mix moog filters with Juno oscillators ? yep...

And then being able to use the already existing superb modular own components in the flow as well AND being able to use everything for the modular FX version is really amazing.

Model 72 has an FX version (so glad that they added the constant gate in some update so that you don't need to send a midi note anymore) but in order to use Model 84 filters (for example) as a FX unit you'd be able to achieve it only using Softube Modular.

So softube synths are great but the experience is getting much more exciting within the modular playground.

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:59 am

Great possibilities in Modular as I see. Fortunately for me, I am not into modular stuff at all.

nirm123 · Post by **nirm123** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:32 am

Got it.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:55 pm

I've downloaded the Model 84 demo to compare to the TAL-U-NO-LX (I know they are different synths). I'm using good quality closed backed headphones and to my ears they sound virtually identical.

Anyone else compared the two?

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:46 pm

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LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54 pm

TAL synths just sound a bit "plasticky" to me. I do not find their sound inspiring enough. As Vortifex said, Softube sounds a lot more appealing.

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:55 pm

Vortifex wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:46 pm
cyberheater wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:55 pm I've downloaded the Model 84 demo to compare to the TAL-U-NO-LX (I know they are different synths). I'm using good quality closed backed headphones and to my ears they sound virtually identical.

Anyone else compared the two?
A big sonic difference between them is when you play the saw and the sub together, the effect is completely different.

You are completely right. The Model 84 sounds completely solid when the sub is mixed it. Much more how I remember my Juno 106. I believe the hardware is using a square wave derived from a flip-flop circuit that is directly tied to the saw tooth generator which is why they should be 100% phase locked.

BrokenTrance · Post by **BrokenTrance** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:23 pm

Yeah i guess it is kinda faithful -white noise or whatever you wanna call it on the chorus too.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:40 pm

LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:34 am After experiencing Model 72 and 84 (already started using in an EP fwiw), I am so excited for the next Softube synth that I can pre-order it already.

These are probably the best examples of case where GAS/FOMO is irrelevant. Absolutely top-notch! The kind of synths that would push you to actually use them even if they are not directly suitable to the style of music you are making. You would want to make music with them. Versatile synths with presets being an icing on the cake.

I hope we will see a new Softube synth this year.

I am mostly with you there

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I didn't like their Parallels and their bass and lead monument or whatever they are called so I didn't buy them but their analog emulations thus far have been fantastic and I too am looking with cash on hand to whatever they come with next.

I didn't imagine I would need another minimoog emulation till I tried model 72

rsp

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:46 pm

zvenx wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:40 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:34 am After experiencing Model 72 and 84 (already started using in an EP fwiw), I am so excited for the next Softube synth that I can pre-order it already.

These are probably the best examples of case where GAS/FOMO is irrelevant. Absolutely top-notch! The kind of synths that would push you to actually use them even if they are not directly suitable to the style of music you are making. You would want to make music with them. Versatile synths with presets being an icing on the cake.

I hope we will see a new Softube synth this year.

I am mostly with you there .

I didn't like their Parallels and their bass and lead monument or whatever they are called so I didn't buy them but their analog emulations thus far have been fantastic and I too am looking with cash on hand to whatever they come with next.

I didn't imagine I would need another minimoog emulation till I tried model 72

rsp

Yeah, their emulations are better than their original synths, or let's say they don't appeal me as much.

Exactly. I never imagine buying Model 72, but the demo sold me in mins. Luckily, the price on it had dropped below $50 by the time and sales have been frequent, so could wait a little for the best offer. Solid synth at a solid price.

mholloway · Post by **mholloway** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:21 pm

LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54 pm TAL synths just sound a bit "plasticky" to me.

What does this even mean, I wonder?

Seriously, I have zero idea what you are communicating here. I'm sure there is some 'feel' you're getting (from all TAL synths, apparently) and this is the vocabulary you have chosen, but I have no idea what it's meant to communicate to the rest of us. What does plastic sound like? And what relation does that have to a synth's oscillator, filters, etc?

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:56 pm

That's it bought. It sounds fantastic.

LoveEnigma18 · Post by **LoveEnigma18** » Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:47 am

mholloway wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:21 pm
LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54 pm TAL synths just sound a bit "plasticky" to me.
What does this even mean, I wonder?

Seriously, I have zero idea what you are communicating here. I'm sure there is some 'feel' you're getting (from all TAL synths, apparently) and this is the vocabulary you have chosen, but I have no idea what it's meant to communicate to the rest of us. What does plastic sound like? And what relation does that have to a synth's oscillator, filters, etc?

Don't want to drag this into any off-topic discussion, but thought I will at least reply to your question: The word I chose conveys the feeling I get from those synths. I am not sure it is the right word or how to covey it better. Simply put, TAL synths are not for me. No need to think too deep on this. Just ignore my comment if you think it doesn't make sense to you or if you like TAL synths.

Softube Model 84 (Juno 106)