Why don’t u-he synths Sound as good as hardware?

[Sebastiantheseeker]

Someone suggested I ask this in my other thread.

[Sebastiantheseeker]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot the other part... especially in Ableton.

[FapFilter]

that's Live!

[Tj Shredder]

Because they sound better?

[fese]

Because of confirmation bias?

[jamcat]

All VA softsynths sound more or less the same when you strip it all back. They all use the same basic maths to generate sound. Where they differ is in features and UX and effects.

The only thing that might set them apart soundwise is some synths have a little bit of secret sauce to emulate some analog behaviour such as osc drift or noisefloor or even output transformer distortion. Arturia’s TAE is an example of some of that. I don’t know if u-he has anything like that, though.

[AnX]

Oh yeah, I almost forgot the other part... especially in Ableton.

Are you saying they sound different in different hosts?

Common, I mean I know this a clickbait thread that will melt into a pool of shit very quickly, but you could at least try harder than that....

[FapFilter]

Guys, this is obviously just one fun/troll thread that the creator didn't mean seriously at all, so why put some actual Logic and Reason into it?

[Michael L]

Someone suggested I ask this in my other thread.

Then take their good advice and ask it in your other thread!!

[TribeOfHǫfuð]

Nah…n/m. It is just bait.

[Tj Shredder]

All VA softsynths sound more or less the same when you strip it all back. They all use the same basic maths to generate sound.

Both sentences are plain wrong… (and that obviously, anybody can prove it…)

I don’t know if u-he has anything like that, though.

U-he and NI had been at the fore front of ZDF filters. And modeling concrete analog schematics is as different as the analog originals…

Modeled synths might sound different than the analog originals. But the claim that one or the other sounds better is both, a matter of taste and/or a matter of bias… I think the main difference is the taktile experience…

[Vortifex]

Ableton's rendering of wooden side panels is subpar, leading to a somewhat thinner and more 'plastic' sound than other DAWs.

[thecontrolcentre]

Someone suggested I ask this in my other thread.

So why don't you do that instead of trolling?

[cryophonik]

Which version of Ableton? I think it’s common knowledge that Live 7.1 was the peak of analogue hardware juiciness, but it sounds progressively worse in all subsequent versions. Well, at least on Windows. Everything sounds like it’s being recorded through an entirely analogue chain on Macs because they use virtual gold plated Mogami cables for all DSP routings.

[thecontrolcentre]

^^